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SeGaFrEaK_NL - Sep 3, 2004

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		SeGaFrEaK_NL		Sep 3, 2004
			After I read on Segagagadomain that Virtua Racing (PAL European) worked on JAP Saturns (And it actually does mg: ) I tried a billion other PAL games and checked if other discs worked. Well I found another 2. Saturn previews volume 1. Demo disc that came with Mean Machines. Had demos of Tomb raider, Keio 2, NHL powerplay, Loaded, Alien trilogy and Exhumed (Powerslave). Works without any trouble. Winter Heat Sampler. Unknown origin demo disc , I know that it came with Sega magazine (German magazine) and probably was given away by Sega in the U.K. Boots without any trouble gives a special message at startup which says 'This game was not yet converted to PAL territories and may run at another speed as those' -something like that. Someone should check: Athlete kings, Core Design sampler, Gremlin sampler, Psygnosis sampler, Courier crisis, Streetfighter collection, Sonic 3D, Virtua racing (US), Crimewave sampler, Victory boxing sampler, WWF wrestlemania sampler, Bootleg sampler, Bug! demo (US), Panzer Dragoon demo (US), Sega saturn choice cuts (US). I bet some could work

		Pyrite		Sep 3, 2004
			Nice find on the game but the demos shouldnt count though also the different frequencies ruin the feature-

		slinga		Sep 3, 2004
			Don't know this for fact as I don't have the game, but someone told me that Christmas NiGHTS worked on multiple regions as well.

		dj898		Sep 3, 2004
			i think US versio is cheers

SeGaFrEaK_NL

Sep 4, 2004

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by Zher@Sep 3, 2004 @ 05:40 PM



 Nice find on the game but the demos shouldnt count though also the different frequencies ruin the feature-

They seem to run without any problems.

mal

Sep 4, 2004

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by SeGaFrEaK_NL@Sep 4, 2004 @ 07:25 AM



 After I read on Segagagadomain that Virtua Racing (PAL European) worked on JAP Saturns (And it actually does mg: ) I tried a billion other PAL games and checked if other discs worked.

AFAIK all versions of Virtua Racing are region free. Euro and US are, but I can't be 100% about the Japanese version.

There are a couple of Euro games that I have that are multiregion but not region free. If my games list wasn't killed in my HD crash I'll check.

		mal		Sep 5, 2004
			It seems that the Lost World and Die Hard Trilogy are also all region.

		Madroms		Sep 7, 2004
			In fact, region free discs you talked about have the JTUBKAEL country codes. Here is a little list of games & demos with all the codes: - All the version of virtua racing (also the JAP) - Tama JAP - Preview Sega Saturn Vol. 1 EUR - WWF Wrestlemania The Arcade Game Demo Version EUR I need to go home to see if there are not any other ones. For Christmas nights USA, it has UJT country code, so it could work on japanese hardware. There are some other games with multiregion codes. For example, with UJT: - NBA Action 98 USA - Virtua Cop 2 USA with UTJ: - Baku baku USA - Decathlete USA - Golden Axe The Duel USA - Hang On GP USA - NHL All-Star Hockey 98 USA - Sega WorldWide Soccer '97 USA - The Mansion of Hidden Souls USA - Virtual ON USA There are full lists, just samples.

antime

Sep 7, 2004

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by Madroms@Sep 7, 2004 @ 02:33 PM



For Christmas nights USA, it has UJT country code, so it could work on japanese hardware.

It would be interesting to have this confirmed, as the developer docs are very specific about the order being "JTUE". (The other codes aren't used in production hardware.)

		CrazyGoon		Sep 7, 2004
			Nice list, Madroms :bounce

		Djidjo		Sep 7, 2004
			My DeathTank rips... and all releases from SSMTF... are also region free. You can make any game region free : replace the IP.BIN with a region-free one (I don't remember where to get it), rebuild the iso and burn.

		mal		Sep 7, 2004
			I think the topic is more about 'out of the box' region free games.

		SeGaFrEaK_NL		Sep 7, 2004
			Indeed, thats a nice list. Anyone has an idea why these discs are region free/multiregion? Just a production error? I'll try Tama tonight, Die hard and Lost world later.

		Madroms		Sep 7, 2004
			I am back at home. So I can provide a more complete list (but maybe not complete at all 'cause I don't have all the games). I didn't test the games on the real hardware 'cause I don't have time to. They are just list of games with multi-region codes (all confirmed). With JTUBKAEL: Preview Sega Saturn Vol. 1 EUR Tama ~Adventurous Ball in Giddy Labyrinth~ JAP Virtua Racing EUR Virtua Racing JAP Virtua Racing USA WWF Wrestlemania The Arcade Game Demo Version EUR With UJT: Christmas Nights Into Dreams Sampler USA NBA Action 98 USA Virtua Cop 2 USA With UTJ: Baku Baku USA Decathlete USA Golden Axe The Duel USA Hang On GP USA NHL All-Star Hockey 98 USA Sega Worldwide Soccer '97 USA The Mansion of Hidden Souls USA Virtual-On - Cyber Troopers USA With JUT: Wing Arms USA With JTUE: Scud - The Disposable Assassin USA Winter Heat Demo Disc EUR With JU: Race Drivin' JAP Sega Saturn Choice Cuts Demo Disc USA With UE: Shanghai Triple Threat USA I only list combinations of U E J letters when there are 2 or more of them. For Die Hard Trilogy: Die Hard Trilogy EUR ENG : Don't have it Die Hard Trilogy EUR FR : EAL Die Hard Trilogy EUR GER : Don't have it Die Hard Trilogy JAP : Have it but sealed so I can't check Die Hard Trilogy USA : TUK For The Lost World Jurassic Park: The Lost World Jurassic Park EUR : E The Lost World Jurassic Park JAP : JT The Lost World Jurassic Park USA : UT Enjoy

		SeGaFrEaK_NL		Sep 7, 2004
			Nice. Can you tell me what all the codes mean? I only know that J is JAP, U is USA and E is European. Thanks

		Madroms		Sep 7, 2004
			J Japan T Taiwan U Usa & Canada B Brazil K Korea A Asia PAL Area E Europe L Latin America

computolio

Jul 4, 2005

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by Djidjo@Wed, 2004-09-08 @ 01:25 AM



My DeathTank rips... and all releases from SSMTF... are also region free.



You can make any game region free : replace the IP.BIN with a region-free one (I don't remember where to get it), rebuild the iso and burn.



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Won't this mess up some games, though? Doesn't that file contain more than just region flags? What about games that don't have an IP.BIN file?

vbt

Jul 4, 2005

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by computolio@Mon, 2005-07-04 @ 10:01 PM



Won't this mess up some games, though? Doesn't that file contain more than just region flags? What about games that don't have an IP.BIN file?



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All games have an ip.bin file, but you can't see it whenyou list the files on the CDROM. It's hidden at the beginning of the CD.

		Borisz		Jul 4, 2005
			The Duck Truemotion devdisc is also multiregion, but I guess it doesn't count cause its a devdisc.

ExCyber

Jul 6, 2005

	
	
		
		
			Won't this mess up some games, though?

Probably.

	
	
		
		
			Doesn't that file contain more than just region flags?

Yes. Most importantly, it contains the "Application Initial Program", which is the first-stage bootloader for the game. The standard AIP behavior is basically to load the first file in the filesystem to 0x06004000 and jump to it. I don't clearly recall any games that do things differently, but they are probably out there...

	
	
		
		
			All games have an ip.bin file, but you can't see it whenyou list the files on the CDROM. It's hidden at the beginning of the CD.

Put another way, it is not actually a file.

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