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Pearl Jammzz - Jul 11, 2004

		Pearl Jammzz	Jul 11, 2004
		Is there any word on a new PS2? A smaller version kinda like the PSOne, so a PSTwo, haha. I wanna get a PS2 but I want a smaller one damnit, or even sumthin more reliable. The PS2's get half-reliable yet?

		mal	Jul 11, 2004
		Don't worry, I'm sure Des-ROW will be along shortly to set you straight.

		Dud	Jul 11, 2004
		throws Pearl Jammzz some body armor

		racketboy	Jul 11, 2004
		nope, sorry, everything Sony makes is crap ducks for cover jk (partially) I'd hold out a little longer. I bet they will make a smaller version in the next year or two

		Alexvrb	Jul 11, 2004
		I sometimes think that when you stack a bunch of new PS2 boxes in a pile, they get bored and play russian roulette. You: "Hey, why is my new PS2 covered in blood??" Store: "Uh oh, looks like we got another DOA!" Seriously though, do you think that producing a compact cheaper version of the PS2 will result in better quality? Just buy a PS2 the next time they drop the price, unless you want to take your chances with a used one. I mean, it is possible to get a fully functioning unit used from a reputable store.

		Pearl Jammzz	Jul 11, 2004
		I would just get a fresh new one. I'll have to get one for GT4 and GTA: San Andreas. Looks like it's gunna be a PS2 only release for awhile. A PC port is in the works but no word on XBox. My bro's PSOne is holding out well, got it when it first came out, still runnin strong. Although it is a lil flimsy, woulda liked to see it a lil more durrable. Are the new PS2's ever a lil better than the old ones? Also, do they have any bundles that come w/ the hdd and modem? I would like both, and if they can come all in one package for a cheaper price I will be happy . (in writing this, my mouse just died...needs a recharge )

		WiseMan	Jul 11, 2004
		the idea of making them smaller is to reduce manufacturing costs. Since a new "cheaper" model ps2 was recently released i doubt a re-modeled ps2 will b released until alot later if at all. i recently bought a ps2 but have since grown terribly bored with it. i did buy it 4 the excellent games available on it but i neglect it for my megadrive.

		Cloud121	Jul 11, 2004
		Well, $ony did register the "PSTwo" trademark. I bet it'll be like the PS2 launch. Release a slimmed down model a day or two before/after their next console. I bet the trimmed down version will be PS2 only, and no PSX backward compatibility.

Alexvrb

Jul 11, 2004

Originally posted by Cloud121@Jul 12, 2004 @ 03:50 AM

I bet the trimmed down version will be PS2 only, and no PSX backward compatibility.

How do you figure that? That would be a pretty retarded move on their part.

Des-ROW

Jul 11, 2004

Originally posted by Cloud121@Jul 11, 2004 @ 10:50 PM

I bet the trimmed down version will be PS2 only, and no PSX backward compatibility.

From a technical standpoint, why do you believe this?

		Cloud121	Jul 12, 2004
		I actually don't know... Just a little guess.

		ExCyber	Jul 12, 2004
		Cloud, the PS2 I/O processor is basically an enhanced PSX core, and plays a critical role in the system. It seems unlikely that Sony has any room to cut it down. As for PS2 reliability, with SCEI's record you're always going to be taking a small chance, just do the best research that you can, buy from a place with a good return policy, and remember that people don't post to say that their PS2 is working fine.

		axelblazeadam	Jul 12, 2004
		My PS2 is working fine

Des-ROW

Jul 12, 2004

Originally posted by ExCyber@Jul 12, 2004 @ 06:29 AM

Cloud, the PS2 I/O processor is basically an enhanced PSX core, and plays a critical role in the system. It seems unlikely that Sony has any room to cut it down.

Exactly, this is what I was about to state.

Cloud121

Jul 12, 2004

Originally posted by axelblazeadam@Jul 12, 2004 @ 12:42 PM

My PS2 is working fine

As is mine!

Again, there goes ExCyber and all his vast knowledge of everything... :lol:

		Shitface	Jul 13, 2004
		Actually, my xbox mag states that GTA 4 just might come out for xbox by spring of 2005. It sounds far, but its not that far away. I would reccomend getting a ps2 anyways. Theres other games you could get too.

		Pearl Jammzz	Jul 13, 2004
		Ya, there will be some....but it'sd gunan be a very LITTLE used system. My XBox gets used the most cuz of emulation of older consoles. As far as actually playing current-gen titles, my GCN owns that, haha.

Alexvrb

Jul 14, 2004

Originally posted by ExCyber@Jul 12, 2004 @ 11:29 AM

Cloud, the PS2 I/O processor is basically an enhanced PSX core, and plays a critical role in the system. It seems unlikely that Sony has any room to cut it down.

Looks like they're going to be relying (entirely?) on emulation with the PS3. I wonder what MS is going to do, I haven't heard anything but rumors on that front.

		ExCyber	Jul 14, 2004
		I don't have details, but I've seen a couple things that suggest that the PSX GPU is already emulated on PS2. In any case there is certainly a solid chunk of software involved to manage everything.

Alexvrb

Jul 14, 2004

Originally posted by ExCyber@Jul 14, 2004 @ 11:11 AM

I don't have details, but I've seen a couple things that suggest that the PSX GPU is already emulated on PS2. In any case there is certainly a solid chunk of software involved to manage everything.

Yeah, that's why I put the (entirely?) in there. Apparently they're not going to have any PS2 hardware in the PS3. Since they're dealing with expensive hardware, they have to save wherever possible. I mean, the RAM alone for the new machine is probably going to be pretty expensive.