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How to burn Last Bronx?

g8crapachino - Jan 13, 2003

		g8crapachino	Jan 13, 2003
		OK, I give up. This game has 2 data tracks and I've followed all posted instructions on burning games with 2 data tracks but Last Bronx absolutely refuses to work for me. (I can burn other dual data track games just fine). The image I download was from Edge's FTP site and I even burned it using the included .CUE but the farthers I can get with this game is to the loading screen that say "Last Bronx. Loading..." then it just hangs. What am I missing?

		mal	Jan 13, 2003
		Can you post the cuesheet for us, as well as the names of the files you have to go with it?

		remysf3	Jan 13, 2003
		I've encountered this problem before, try slowing down your burning speed to one that did it for me, try also to look for a different site to download it from.

		Taelon	Jan 13, 2003
		You can thank the idiot who ripped a dual-data-track game as iso/iso/wav rather than bin/cue to begin with... unless you know what you're doing, it messes up the lengths of the data tracks and the gaps between them (on the burned copy). Which explains the failure of your burn: Files within the ISO filesystem in track 1 actually refer to block numbers that are within track 2. Seeing as that track 2 in your case is almost definitely offset, the files are misread and end up corrupted. Alas, I cannot offer a solution without seeing your game and its tracks... so, yeah, let's have a look at the cuesheet.

		printf	Jan 16, 2003
		If you still have the problem you wrote about, try changing the pregap of the second track to 00:03:00. This is probably the only problem the cue sheet has. Please tell us if it worked for you. printf

		g8crapachino	Jan 16, 2003
		I downloaded the files off of Edge's FTP site. Here is the CUE sheet. Changing the pregap to 00:03:00 for track 2 did not work by the way. Thanks everyone. ------------ FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 02 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T03 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T04 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 04 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T05 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 05 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T06 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 06 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T07 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 07 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T08 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 08 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T09 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 09 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T10 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 10 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T11 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 11 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T12 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 12 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T13 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 13 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T14 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 14 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T15 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 15 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T16 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 16 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T17 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 17 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T18 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 18 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T19 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 19 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T20 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 20 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T21 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 21 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T22 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 22 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T23 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 23 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T24 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 24 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00

		printf	Jan 16, 2003
		Changing the pregap did not work? You're not using an older version of Nero, right? I know the data tracks are laid out to have a 3 second gap between them, so any attempt to burn them with 2 seconds will probably fail. Any burning software that ignores this will produce coasters all the time. Please tell me what CD recording software you have available and the version numbers of that software. This might just be the problem. I hope you don't want to forget about this game now, because it's really nice (to any fan of fighting games). printf

		mal	Jan 16, 2003
		Maybe try converting the second data track to Mode 2/2336 using CDmage.... When I burnt Snatcher... (for Saturn) a while back from dual iso/wav that worked for me. A 3 second pre gap is needed as well.

		Sane	Jan 19, 2003
		Originally posted by mal@Jan. 16 2003, 4:04 pm Maybe try converting the second data track to Mode 2/2336 using CDmage.... How exactly do you convert it with CDmage? It won't let me open the iso at all, I tried opening it with all 3 different mode/sector types. I'm trying to burn Thunderforce Gold pack 2 btw, I tried editing the cue sheet as described in the sticky topic but it didn't work. This is the original cue sheet that came with it:     FILE "Thunder Force Gold Pack 2 (Saturn) T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Thunder Force Gold Pack 2 (Saturn) T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Thunder Force Gold Pack 2 (Saturn) T03 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 02 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Thunder Force Gold Pack 2 (Saturn) T04 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3 TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00

		IBarracudaI	Jan 19, 2003
		Try setting the pregap on the 2nd datatrack to 3secs, as printf said...

		Sane	Jan 19, 2003
		I did, I followed all the intructions in the 2 topics dealing with this.

		Sane	Jan 20, 2003
		Nevermind, I got it to work. I think the problem was the mp3's, they were mp3 pro and it seems my regular converting program couldn't properly convert them because after I used Nero instead to convert the game burned flawlessly.

		Sane	Jan 22, 2003
		Ok, I also downloaded Last Bronx from Edge's FTP and I have problems with it as well. I made this cue sheet:     FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 02 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:03:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T03 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T04 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 04 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T05 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 05 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T06 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 06 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T07 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 07 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T08 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 08 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T09 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 09 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T10 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 10 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T11 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 11 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T12 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 12 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T13 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 13 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T14 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 14 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T15 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 15 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T16 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 16 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T17 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 17 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T18 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 18 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T19 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 19 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T20 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 20 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T21 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 21 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T22 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 22 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T23 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 23 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "Last Bronx (Saturn) T24 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 24 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 But when I try to use it I get an error. I tested the iso's in CDmage, and the 2nd iso gives me an error when trying to open it as Mode2 2352. So I figure that is the problem. Anyway, now I want to try converting to mode 2 2336 like Mal suggested, but I don't know how. Can anyone tell me how to do this? Thanks.

		Taelon	Jan 22, 2003
		You're sure it's not already a Mode2/2336? The trick I use in cases such as this is whip up a calculator and see if a given track file's byte size divides by either 2048, 2336 or 2352. That way I know whether it's cooked/raw and whether it's a Mode1 or Mode2 (in case it's cooked).

		Sane	Jan 22, 2003
		Track's bytesize is 87637872. 87637872 divided by 2048 = 42791.929 87637872 divided by 2336 = 37516.212 87637872 divided by 2352 = 37261 So, what does this tell me? that 2352 is the correct block size?

		Sane	Jan 24, 2003
		Sorry to 'bump' this up again, but is it possible to burn this game in any way, or should I go look for a different iso?

		printf	Jan 24, 2003
		Originally posted by Sane@Jan. 24 2003, 8:55 am Sorry to 'bump' this up again, but is it possible to burn this game in any way, or should I go look for a different iso? 2352 seems to be the correct sector size for your images second track. It's very likely the game is ok, but the burning method isn't. I just dug up the game myself and will have a look at it, so please wait a little longer.

		Sane	Jan 24, 2003
		OK, thanks a lot