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FIRST PC CRASH
Gallstaff - Jul 18, 2004
  Gallstaff Jul 18, 2004
My first crash ever since I built the thing a year and a half ago! And it was totally my fault for using third party drivers in the first place.

What a milestone!

 racketboy Jul 18, 2004
congrats

I haven't had one on any of my NT-based boxes

 schi0249 Jul 18, 2004
Good job. I use to get that on an old NT 4.x machine at work all the time. In 2000 I got it once, similar mistake, using a third party driver.

 Pearl Jammzz Jul 18, 2004
My parents 2k machine gtes that all the time, it hasn't been redone FOREVER and I believbe it's from the 3rd party vid card drivers....

 Resident_Lurker Jul 18, 2004
Tsk, tsk, tsk. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 Cloud121 Jul 18, 2004
Yet another reason why I'm glad I'm a Mac user.

I've never had a system crash in my life.

 mal Jul 19, 2004
No crashes on a Mac? You can't be using it properly.

 Runik Jul 19, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by mal@Jul 19, 2004 @ 06:17 AM



 No crashes on a Mac? You can't be using it properly.


Exactly

I used a Mac for fun some years ago, and it just crashed (I was just trying to use it )

And as there's no reset button on it, I had to unplug it

 it290 Jul 19, 2004
Haha, yeah, OS9 and prior (which I believe you're using, right, Cloud?) are pathetically easy to crash. OSX is a lot better, but I've still managed to crash my OSX machine at work quite a few times. All three OS9 machines that I use regularly will crash if you even so much as attempt to do anything that remotely resembles multitasking. And out of those, two are pretty much clean installs with an extremely minimal number of extensions running and no funky hardware. Remember Cloud, protected memory = good.

 schi0249 Jul 19, 2004
I have a G4 Powerbook with OSX 10.2, and I've crashed it a few times. Usually it has happened while installing some application.

 racketboy Jul 19, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by it290@Jul 19, 2004 @ 08:27 AM



 Haha, yeah, OS9 and prior (which I believe you're using, right, Cloud?) are pathetically easy to crash. OSX is a lot better, but I've still managed to crash my OSX machine at work quite a few times. All three OS9 machines that I use regularly will crash if you even so much as attempt to do anything that remotely resembles multitasking. And out of those, two are pretty much clean installs with an extremely minimal number of extensions running and no funky hardware. Remember Cloud, protected memory = good.


Yeah I never saw the appeal of Mac OS 9 and earlier.

Networking sucks -- at school in the design labs, if the server had problems, it froze up all our machines.

Also it was not great at mulitasking like having Photoshop and Freehand doing stuff at the same time.

 Cloud121 Jul 19, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by it290@Jul 19, 2004 @ 03:27 AM



 Haha, yeah, OS9 and prior (which I believe you're using, right, Cloud?) are pathetically easy to crash. OSX is a lot better, but I've still managed to crash my OSX machine at work quite a few times. All three OS9 machines that I use regularly will crash if you even so much as attempt to do anything that remotely resembles multitasking. And out of those, two are pretty much clean installs with an extremely minimal number of extensions running and no funky hardware. Remember Cloud, protected memory = good.


I'm using OS X Jaguar (10.2.8), and System 7.6 (PowerBook).

Neither my G3 (OS X) or my PowerBook (System 7.6) have crashed ever!

System 7.6 is actually my preferred Mac OS besides OS X...

Hey it, I'm really drawing a blank right now, but, what's protected memory?

Oh and mal,

I sure has hell am using it correctly! :lol:

 Alexvrb Jul 19, 2004
Even Windows is quite stable if you don't do much with it, Cloud. Using all sorts of interesting software on it means you might crash it.

Gallstaff: You mean AFTER you underclocked your memory. Silly wabbit, buying a silly motherboard.

 it290 Jul 19, 2004
Protected memory means that only the kernel and some other integral parts of the OS have access to all the memory in the system. It prevents programs from accidently overwriting eachother's allocated memory and causing a crash. See: Mac OS Classic.

 Gallstaff Jul 19, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Alexvrb@Jul 19, 2004 @ 02:38 PM



 Even Windows is quite stable if you don't do much with it, Cloud. Using all sorts of interesting software on it means you might crash it.



Gallstaff: You mean AFTER you underclocked your memory.  Silly wabbit, buying a silly motherboard.


Haha nice job remembering. That's right, my ASUS hates my pc-3200 GEIL ram. I totally forgot i was running it like two sticks of 2700. I need to get a new mobo. Thanks for reminding me. :lol:

 mal Jul 19, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Cloud121@Jul 20, 2004 @ 04:38 AM



 Neither my G3 (OS X) or my PowerBook (System 7.6) have crashed ever!



System 7.6 is actually my preferred Mac OS besides OS X...


Sorry Cloud, but I just don't believe you.

I was a hard core Mac user for over 6 years and having them crash was quite a regular occurrence. Not daily, but often enough.

 schi0249 Jul 20, 2004
To be honest, my Mac OS X 10.2 machine crashes more than my Windows XP Pro machine. However, I've also reformatted my XP machine more times than I can count.

 Alexvrb Jul 20, 2004

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Gallstaff@Jul 19, 2004 @ 10:45 PM



 Haha nice job remembering. That's right, my ASUS hates my pc-3200 GEIL ram. I totally forgot i was running it like two sticks of 2700. I need to get a new mobo. Thanks for reminding me. :lol:


Just remember, brand is somewhat important, and Asus is typically good, but chipset is MORE important. If you're keeping everything else the same, get a good nforce 2 400-based board. They're pretty cheap, have dual-channel as an option (though honestly, dual-channel doesn't do much for socket A athlons... their FSB is still only so wide). It would also allow you to OC better, since it locks PCI and AGP speeds, for starters.