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Dreamcast on a chip.
allsport11 - Oct 7, 2004
 allsport11 Oct 7, 2004
Not sure if this has been posted yet but here goes:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1667689...

 Cloud121 Oct 7, 2004
Hm...

Interesting...

So, what exactly are they gonna do with it?

 mal Oct 7, 2004
The concept certainly isn't new....

It'll be interesting to see what comes of it this time...

 ExCyber Oct 7, 2004
Seems like it's intended to go into high-end handhelds, but the article says it was actually designed as a console-style platform. In that context it doesn't make a lot of sense, but I could see this easily being useful for bringing down the cost of an Atomiswave successor, or for semicustom variations on the architecture for multi-screen games.

 Alexvrb Oct 8, 2004
Sega had prototypes of a Dreamcast on a PCI card ages ago. But this isn't a Dreamcast on a chip at all! These writers don't know what they're talking about. If I take an Intel P4 1.5Ghz and an Nvidia Geforce 5600 mobile and shove them together, do I have an Xbox? No. This chip combines a newer SH chip with more punch than the SH4 variant in the DC, and a PVR MBX core, which is quite different from the Series 2 chip in the Dreamcast. MBX is designed through and through for mobile purposes, but it can be used for other things because it is small, and would be cheap and easy to embed in a chip and used for set-tops and whatnot. That's probably why they used it, it is a full 3D accelerator but it is very small and inexpensive.

That does not mean it is suited for mobile devices, since the CPU alone would probably eat too much power. For mobile applications, Renesas is combining SH-mobile chips (SH3-compatible IIRC, low power, decent performance) with the MBX cores. As far as replacing the Atomiswave goes, it's not a drop in replacement. But it wouldn't be hard to start making arcade games for it, and it'd probably be cheap as dirt to produce these things.

 Des-ROW Oct 8, 2004
Has already been done. The EE+GS chip in the PSX and the new SCPH-70000 PlayStation2.

 mal Oct 8, 2004
The PSX and PS2 have a Dreamcast-on-a-chip in them?

 Des-ROW Oct 8, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by mal@Oct 8, 2004 @ 01:08 AM

The PSX and PS2 have a Dreamcast-on-a-chip in them?

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Affirmative. Check the DESR-7100 and SCPH-70000 spec sheets.

 Alexvrb Oct 8, 2004
Yes, and my toaster oven has two Emotion Engines and a Stirling Engine too. So there.

There is no Dreamcast on a chip, people.

 Pearl Jammzz Oct 10, 2004
LMAO! My Genesis lets me experience sex as a women too....cool aye?

 SkankinMonkey Oct 10, 2004
What it really needs is a fufme device...

 Alexvrb Oct 10, 2004
I'd have to throw it away and replace it on a regular basis. What? I'm sure as hell not cleaning it.