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Sub - Jul 12, 2003

		Sub		Jul 12, 2003
			Here's what I've been using: Nero/Fireburner/CDRWin burning DAO at 4x Memorex 80min 48x CDRs Model 1 Saturn, model# MK-80000, 20 pins (I got stuck with two of these guys no less, when I didn't know anything about Saturn modding) I've been trying to burn: Segata Sanshiro Shinkenyugi BIN/CUE. The CUE is at the bottom of the post so as to not get in the way. Radiant Silvergun ISO/MP3: This I've only tried to burn in Nero as a mixed-mode CD. I could try other stuff but I'm focusing on the Sanshiro game for the moment because bin/cue is easier to work with. I'm doing the swap trick exactly as I've seen it described from many, many sources. I've also tried the alternate method that was posted here (leave the CDR in until it stops spinning, stick in original, reset, let the Saturn verify, swap to CDR), AND the 5-in-1 cart method in the misc section of this site. Now the problem here is that when I do the swap trick, no matter how I do it, the Saturn recognizes my disc as an audio CD. I don't get the not-suitable message. It just sends me into the CD player and I can listen to, ironically enough, the "this is not an audio CD" message from there. I found a thread on here about this problem but I wasn't able to get anything out of it that I hadn't already attempted. Anybody have any ideas, or am I screwed?

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			If the saturn goes straight to cd-player without trying to read the protection ring, means you have a bad burned copy.. and... with all that talking you forgot posting the cuesheet post it and i'll help you...

		Sub		Jul 12, 2003
			Here you go: FILE "SEGATA.BIN" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 TRACK 02 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:03:00 INDEX 01 29:26:37 TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 31:11:10

		Jaded God		Jul 13, 2003
			umm your cue sheet is completely messed up! It says TRACK 02 MODE2/2352, yet you have no file name before that.. :huh Is this a dual layered track game?? I can't quite remember if this game is or not.

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			Here's the cuesheet I'm working with now, made in Sega Cue Maker: FILE "segata.bin" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 POSTGAP 00:02:00

		Jaded God		Jul 13, 2003
			Do you have audio or not?? You only have the bin in the cuesheet.

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			The problem was that the package I got has no audio files, just a bin/cue. The cue that I got with it, on the other hand, was written as you saw it posted before. I don't know whether the cue is bad or whether I'm missing something myself.

		Jaded God		Jul 13, 2003
			I say find another source for this game... Especially if you have no audio files

		Pyrite		Jul 13, 2003
			Well if you are having trouble with BIN&CUE you should convert it to ISO&WAV I recommend WINISO to do this operation or Binchunker.

IBarracudaI

Jul 13, 2003

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by Sub@Jul 13, 2003 @ 04:03 AM



 Here you go:



FILE "SEGATA.BIN" BINARY



 TRACK 01 MODE1/2352



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



 TRACK 02 MODE2/2352



  PREGAP 00:03:00



  INDEX 01 29:26:37



 TRACK 03 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 31:11:10

This cuesheet seems OK to me...

That one you've made with segacuemaker...

IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG

Have you tried loading the first cuesheet on cdrwin?

As I said... looks fine to me..

Jaded: Of course it doesn't have FILE "....." BINARY, after all it's a BIN+CUE rip, the BIN file only has to be declared once. Those cuesheets that declare files for each track are for iso+wav/mp3 rips.

Edit: Sub, what cd burner are you using?

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			I used Binchunker to get the ISO/WAV files, looked up the thread on burning mutliple ISOs, and changed my original cue to make this cue: FILE "SEGATA T01 Mode1 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "SEGATA T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 02 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:03:00 INDEX 01 29:26:37 FILE "SEGATA T03 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 31:11:10 CDRWin won't load it though. I'm not sure what's wrong with it. Edit: I'm using a HP CDWriter Plus on an HP Pavilion. It's not the greatest, but it doesn't give me problems with any of my other game burns. Edit again: Here's the error: Error: Invalid CUE SHEET command at line 7 First INDEX of file does not start at 00:00:00 My first index is indeed 00:00:00, so I don't know what's up here.

		IBarracudaI		Jul 13, 2003
			FILE "SEGATA T01 Mode1 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2352 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "SEGATA T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY TRACK 02 MODE2/2352 PREGAP 00:03:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "SEGATA T03 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE TRACK 03 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 I think this will load up correctly on cdrwin. But I still don't understand why burning directly from bin+cue doesn't work... hey.. wait a minute. how old is that burner?

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			The burner's only about three years old. In other news, Silvergun is working just fine, so SOMETHING does work.

		IBarracudaI		Jul 13, 2003
			what about the cuesheet i gave u?

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			About to test. Silvergun's had me momentarily distracted. Oh damn is that thing good.

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			Just burned it, CDRWin, 4X, DAO. No luck.

		IBarracudaI		Jul 13, 2003
			same problem? saturn doesn't even try to read the rin?

		IBarracudaI		Jul 13, 2003
			The only thing I can think of... is that when you patch that iso in mode1 2352, u mess it up.. try converting to mode1 2048 (with binchunker) and patch that one....

		Sub		Jul 13, 2003
			Yeah, exact same problem. It goes into the CD player menu every time.