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Jaded God - Jul 11, 2003

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Jaded God

Jul 11, 2003

Ok so I am about to burn Game Paradise and as you know it is a dual mode/track game...

I have read the sticky about dual track games but take a look at this...

The .cue file that came with the rip, the cue sheet reads as follows...

	
	
		
		
			FILE "Game Paradise T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY



 TRACK 01 MODE1/2048



   INDEX 01 00:00:00



   POSTGAP 00:02:00



FILE "Game Paradise T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY



 TRACK 02 MODE2/2352



   INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T03 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 03 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T04 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 04 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T05 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 05 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T06 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 06 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T07 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 07 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T08 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 08 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T09 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 09 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T10 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 10 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T11 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 11 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T12 Audio 2352.mp3" MP3



 TRACK 12 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00

Yet Mal posted a universal dual track .cue and it reads like this..

	
	
		
		
			FILE track_01.ISO BINARY



 TRACK 01 MODE1/2048



 INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE track_02.ISO BINARY



 TRACK 02 MODE2/2336



 PREGAP 00:03:00



 INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE track_03.WAV WAVE



 TRACK 03 AUDIO



 PREGAP 00:02:00



 INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE track_04.WAV WAVE



 TRACK 04 AUDIO



 INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE track_05.WAV WAVE



 TRACK 05 AUDIO



 INDEX 01 00:00:00



and so on for more audio tracks...

Notice how on the rip .cue there is a PREGAP for 00:02:00 for every audio track, and on Mal's it just has one PREGRAP for 00:02:00 on the very first audio track..

Which should I use? I don't feel like being Rambo today, since I am running low on CD-R's and don't want to make a coaster.

		IBarracudaI		Jul 11, 2003
			try mal's cuesheet I've never had troubles with it, and have already burned many games following that "blank" cue

		Jaded God		Jul 11, 2003
			ok I'll try it

Jaded God

Jul 12, 2003

Well hmm This is what I came out with using Mal's universal dual track cue

	
	
		
		
			FILE "Game Paradise T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY



 TRACK 01 MODE1/2048



   INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "Game Paradise T02 Mode2 2352.iso" BINARY



 TRACK 02 MODE2/2352



   PREGAP 00:03:00



   INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "001_Game Paradise T03 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 03 AUDIO



  PREGAP 00:02:00



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "002_Game Paradise T04 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 04 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "003_Game Paradise T05 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 05 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "004_Game Paradise T06 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 06 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "005_Game Paradise T07 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 07 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "006_Game Paradise T08 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 08 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "007_Game Paradise T09 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 09 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "008_Game Paradise T10 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 10 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "009_Game Paradise T11 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 11 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00



FILE "010_Game Paradise T12 Audio 2352.wav" WAVE



 TRACK 12 AUDIO



  INDEX 01 00:00:00

Yet I get this error in CDRWIN..

"Error: Invalid CUE SHEET command at line 8

WAVE File is invalid or not CDROM compatible"

All of my wav files are fine.. Don't know what is up. :huh

Also note that my second iso track is 2352 and not 2336 like Mal's cue sheet.

		mal		Jul 12, 2003
			I didn't know I'd written a 'universal dual track cuesheet'. Are the wav files 16 bit, 44.1KHz? I'm just wondering what could make them "not CDROM compatible".

IBarracudaI

Jul 12, 2003

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by mal@Jul 12, 2003 @ 01:29 PM



 I didn't know I'd written a 'universal dual track cuesheet'.

Yes you have

Jaded God: As mal said, maybe your wav files are not at the cdda standard. 16bit 44khz, are you pre-converting mp3->wav? You could use the original format used in that rip. cdrwin handles MP3 files directly

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			Hmm well here is the thing guys... I always convert my mp3's >>to>> wav before burning games. I have never, ever had a problem with that... I use Winamp and have been for years. Nero would work just fine this way <_< Anyways I took a look at one of my wavs and this is what I get "001_Gradius Deluxe T02 Audio 2352" Bit Rate: 705kbps Audio sample size: 16 bit Channels: 2 (stereo) Audio sample rate: 22 kHz Audio format: PCM That is odd... Audio sample rate = 22kHz... Why is this??? That is for Gradius Deluxe which I am also having the same errors, and I just checked Game Paradise wav's and they are the exact same info on them. :huh

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			Well I checked the original mp3 files and they are in 22kHz to begin with!!! ' So what should I do??? So it is obviously not the greatest rip I got. :huh

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			search for audio converting tools, most of them can convert sampling rates.

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			Yea but I don't want to have to do this.. What is up?? Do I have bad rips since they arent 44kHz.. I dont want to always have to do this.

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			The rip is going to work.. only that audiotracks won't be so good as if they were encoded to mp3 with better quality... Anyways, here is a simple prog that will do the trick Awave Audio...

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			Well I know I have burned heaps of saturn games with NERO and I know I probably have had these same audio rips with 22kHz instead of 44kHz... So does NERO just ignore the error???

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			It's NOT an error... What happens is that CDDA tracks have to be in 16bit 44.1khz.. Probably nero always converts the mp3's to 44.1khz without prompt. CDRWin doesn't...

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			no no no... Please listen Barracuda before you reply lol I ALWAYS CONVERT MP3 TO WAV BEFORE BURNING SATURN GAMES... So when I used NERO they were WAV already hence no converting is happening... And I meant ERROR because CDRWIN calls it an error... Also does CDRWIN allow you to just use mp3s.. does it convert to wav like nero would? You said something above about that.. But I DONT think it does. :huh

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			lol, okee i misunderstood you probably nero even re-converts wav files.. to the correct sample rate.. And yes, cdrwin converts MP3 on-the-fly, but it doesn't convert sample rates to 44khz.. from cdrwin's help: Note: For audio discs, you can load either WAVE, AIFF, or MP3 files into the list. MP3 files will be automatically decoded during recording, so there is no need to decode them beforehand.

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			hmm but if I try and load it with the mp3s that are 22kHz also will I get the same error message?

		IBarracudaI		Jul 12, 2003
			yes.. if nero doesn't works... you have to use that tool and resample it to 44.1khz

		Jaded God		Jul 12, 2003
			Ok I converted everything to 44100 kHz 44kHz and the cuesheet loads up fine in CDRWIN but then when I hit record I get this...

		Jaded God		Jul 14, 2003
			:bump:

		IBarracudaI		Jul 15, 2003
			Cuesheet rejected? There only one thing left... ISO2RAW... Use this program to convert the first datatrack which is at mode1 2048 to mode1 2352, this way all the track will have the same sector size. Correct the cuesheet so that track1 is loaded in mode1/2352 and give it a try...

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