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4m 13 in 1 cart, how do i use it.
Sirsmeggy - Feb 2, 2007
  Sirsmeggy Feb 2, 2007
Sega Saturn 4M EXTENSION RAM CARD 13IN1 .. I have no idea what it means 13 in 1, cus it does nothing, I have 2 of them. they dont show up as ram backups, they dont show up as ram expansiions for games. and it doesnt have any gameshark codes or menus in it. any ideas, any one with docs on this...


Thanks

 thumpin_termis Feb 5, 2007
I believe they're only used for games needing 1M or 4M RAM cart games. Most of the 1M games will be SNK games, and most of the 4M games will be Capcom games. (Although you can keep the switch in 4M setting because that'll still work with most 1M games).

Expansion RAM carts like the above won't show up in the main menu. I have the official Sega ones (1MB and 4MB), and they both don't show up on the main menu. Only way to know that they work is to actually play a game that uses them.

But to use this cart, you'll need either:

1. A Japanese Saturn - because all the games requiring the this cart are Japanese games (minus US version of Marvel Super Heroes, maybe... someone can correct me)

2. A Saturn with a region-switch installed.

3. A Saturn that plays CDRs, so you can change the Japanese region code of the game to US then burn that to a CDR, which will allow it to boot up on your US saturn.

Now all this stuff I said is assuming that I got the cart correct. I don't have it myself, but I just recall seeing this cart somewhere on the web.

 Sirsmeggy Feb 10, 2007
Thanks for the info, and your correct. I modded my model 1 saturn and it works when i put in metal slug, with out it in metal slug gives me a ram cart error.. I was hoping it was a ram backup aswell....



thanks

 Drenholm Feb 11, 2007
Have you considered getting an Action Replay Plus? That would offer you the backup memory as well.

Edit: Ah, this is the one that Racketboy sells....

 thumpin_termis Feb 11, 2007
Yeah, AR carts are definitely good, but I was really disappointed in the fact that you couldn't save directly on to the cartridges - you can only save to the system backup ram, then move/copy the files only once you're in the main menu.

Oh, and this quote from racketboy's website is very true for me too.


  
	
	

		
		

			One of my biggest complaints about the Action Replay cartidges is the fact that everytime you boot up a game while the cart is in the system, you have to hit a bunch of buttons to navigate through a handful of menus. I might not sound like much, but if you turn your Saturn on and off much, this gets old very quickly.


So personally, I only use the AR cart if I'm going to use the cheat feature (rarely), or for backing up my saves (quite often). Other than that, I usually just have my Sega brand 4M expansion cart in the cartridge slot.

 Sirsmeggy Feb 15, 2007
well i just ordered a few 8m ram carts direct backup carts


thakns for the info guys

 dj898 Feb 19, 2007

thumpin_termis said:
Yeah, AR carts are definitely good, but I was really disappointed in the fact that you couldn't save directly on to the cartridges - you can only save to the system backup ram, then move/copy the files only once you're in the main menu.


that's because the way Saturn detects the carts it can be either Backup memory cart OR Import cart, just not at the same time. This is I believe how the PDS detects the presence of import cart in the cart slot...

 ExCyber Feb 20, 2007

dj898 said:
that's because the way Saturn detects the carts it can be either Backup memory cart OR Import cart, just not at the same time.

No, it's that it can be a backup cart or expansion RAM cart. The boot ROM function (read: every feature except expansion RAM in an AR), as far as I know, doesn't use the cartridge ID standard at all and Saturn just examines the beginning of the A-Bus /CS0 area for a header.


dj898 said:
This is I believe how the PDS detects the presence of import cart in the cart slot...

I think it just checks a blacklist of indentifier strings like "ACTION REPLAY" against various locations in the cart, but I haven't looked at it personally.

 Sirsmeggy Feb 20, 2007
I just orded 2 of these units and got them today. they look slightly differant than the one in the picture as mine have a switch in the middle that say 32M & 8M


I dont know what thats for.. can NE1 tell me..


Thanks


http://www.gamefreax.com/lshop,show...0,566,,36Tsh...

 thumpin_termis Feb 20, 2007
I never seen that cart, but since the link provided says it's 32Mbit, this is what I can assume.

1MB (megabyte) = 8Mb (megabits)

4MB (megabytes) = 32Mb (megabits)

So basically, it's essentially the same as the cartridge in your first post. (That is, I don't think these are direct-save carts!) Well, that's what I'd assume.

The only way to find out it to try!

 Sirsmeggy Feb 21, 2007
Your correct the same as the other cart.. man I just got ripped off. I was told it was a backup cart and now I cant return them... woohoo

 thumpin_termis Feb 21, 2007
Ah, that sucks bro.

But if you're going to still buy a direct-save memory backup unit, try to secure the official Sega memory cart. Many of the non-official 3rd party ones use data compression and have a reputation to easily corrupt your save files - it happened to me a few times.

 ExCyber Feb 21, 2007

  
	
	

		
		

			try to secure the official Sega memory cart

Which, for your eBay/Yahoo/Froogle-trolling convenience, is named "Power Memory".

 dj898 Feb 21, 2007
they look like these boxed... pic... pic... or get one of these if you can fine one @__@