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Cyber Akuma - Jan 20, 2003
   Cyber Akuma Jan 20, 2003 
ok, I have two games that I seem to have trouble burning.

One is Android Assult, I tried checking out the ISO and cue file, they all check out ok, but when I put the cd in my saturn it dosent even bother to check the protection ring, just reads forever then eventually gives up.

The other is Golden Axe, the game boots, for about a second, then the screen refreshes for liek 3 times and it exits to the cd player.

Ideas anyone?

   Taelon Jan 20, 2003 
SegaXtreme Golden Rule #94: When asking for help with game burns, POST THE CUESHEET.


   Cyber Akuma Jan 20, 2003 
*drills his ears*

Phew, ok ok sorry, ya didnt have ta yell XD

Android Assult:

Code:
  
FILE "AndroidAssualt T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 POSTGAP 00:02:00 FILE "02 - AndrodAssualt02.mp3" MP3 TRACK 02 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "03 - AndrodAssualt03.mp3" MP3 TRACK 03 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "04 - AndrodAssualt04.mp3" MP3 TRACK 04 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "05 - AndrodAssualt05.mp3" MP3 TRACK 05 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "06 - AndrodAssualt06.mp3" MP3 TRACK 06 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "07 - AndrodAssualt07.mp3" MP3 TRACK 07 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "08 - AndrodAssualt08.mp3" MP3 TRACK 08 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "09 - AndrodAssualt09.mp3" MP3 TRACK 09 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "10 - AndrodAssualt10.mp3" MP3 TRACK 10 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "11 - AndroidAssualt11.mp3" MP3 TRACK 11 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "12 - AndroidAssualt12.mp3" MP3 TRACK 12 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "13 - AndroidAssualt13.mp3" MP3 TRACK 13 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "14 - AndroidAssualt14.mp3" MP3 TRACK 14 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "15 - AndroidAssualt15.mp3" MP3 TRACK 15 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "16 - AndroidAssualt16.mp3" MP3 TRACK 16 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "17 - AndroidAssualt17.mp3" MP3 TRACK 17 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "18 - AndroidAssualt18.mp3" MP3 TRACK 18 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "19 - AndroidAssualt19.mp3" MP3 TRACK 19 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00

Golden Axe:

Code:
  
FILE "goldaxeduel T01 Mode1 2048.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 POSTGAP 00:02:00 FILE "02 - Track 2.mp3" MP3 TRACK 02 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "03 - Track 3.mp3" MP3 TRACK 03 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "04 - Track 4.mp3" MP3 TRACK 04 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "05 - Track 5.mp3" MP3 TRACK 05 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "06 - Track 6.mp3" MP3 TRACK 06 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "07 - Track 7.mp3" MP3 TRACK 07 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "08 - Track 8.mp3" MP3 TRACK 08 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "09 - Track 9.mp3" MP3 TRACK 09 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "10 - Track 10.mp3" MP3 TRACK 10 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "11 - Track 11.mp3" MP3 TRACK 11 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "12 - Track 12.mp3" MP3 TRACK 12 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "13 - Track 13.mp3" MP3 TRACK 13 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "14 - Track 14.mp3" MP3 TRACK 14 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "15 - Track 15.mp3" MP3 TRACK 15 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "16 - Track 16.mp3" MP3 TRACK 16 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "17 - Track 17.mp3" MP3 TRACK 17 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "18 - Track 18.mp3" MP3 TRACK 18 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "19 - Track 19.mp3" MP3 TRACK 19 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "20 - Track 20.mp3" MP3 TRACK 20 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "21 - Track 21.mp3" MP3 TRACK 21 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "22 - Track 22.mp3" MP3 TRACK 22 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "23 - Track 23.mp3" MP3 TRACK 23 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "24 - Track 24.mp3" MP3 TRACK 24 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "25 - Track 25.mp3" MP3 TRACK 25 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00

Alien Trilogy (having problems with this one too, boots to the SEGA screen then freezes loading forever):

Code:
  
FILE "track01.iso" BINARY TRACK 01 MODE1/2048 INDEX 01 00:00:00 POSTGAP 00:02:00 FILE "track02.mp3" MP3 TRACK 02 AUDIO PREGAP 00:02:00 INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track03.mp3" MP3 TRACK 03 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track04.mp3" MP3 TRACK 04 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track05.mp3" MP3 TRACK 05 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track06.mp3" MP3 TRACK 06 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track07.mp3" MP3 TRACK 07 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track08.mp3" MP3 TRACK 08 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track09.mp3" MP3 TRACK 09 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track10.mp3" MP3 TRACK 10 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track11.mp3" MP3 TRACK 11 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track12.mp3" MP3 TRACK 12 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track13.mp3" MP3 TRACK 13 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00 FILE "track14.mp3" MP3 TRACK 14 AUDIO INDEX 01 00:00:00

   yashiro Jan 20, 2003 
android assault is a segacd game. as far as i know, it was never ported to saturn, and i can't find a record of any such port, after a brief search. so that's why it won't boot.

as for golden axe, i'm not really sure. sorry i can't be of more help...

   printf Jan 20, 2003 
Alien Trilogy checks the protection again after it has loaded, so you will need to make another swap. After that, it'll boot just fine (AFAIK). I don't know about Golden Axe, you might want to try lowering your burning speed, or using different CDRs.

   Cyber Akuma Jan 20, 2003 
AARRGGHH! I was trying to play a Sega CD game in my saturn? No WONDER it wouldent boot >.<

Well, thats one problem solved

So Alien Triology checks the protection again eh? Sneaky......... however, that means that the second check is done by software right? So is there any type of patch/hack/ and or PAR code to bypass that?

And any other ideas on Golden Axe?

   Taelon Jan 21, 2003 
Well, the cuesheets all look great - Android Assault being the exception, as SegaCD games do not use postgaps like Saturn ones do But that's a moot point of course.

Two suggestions .... Load the iso track from Golden Axe into ISOBuster and verify that the filesystem contained within indeed is ok and that all files are readable - in particular, that the ISO is complete and not truncated, to the effect of files near the end of the track missing/unreadable.

Secondly, do you burn directly from the mp3 files? It might help to convert them to .wav (and change the cuesheets accordingly).

   mal Jan 21, 2003 
Are you using a 3D pad with Golden Axe?

According to this... they are incompatible.

   Cyber Akuma Jan 21, 2003 
3D pad? Ummm, yes I am XD

Ill try it when I get home.

   Cyber Akuma Jan 30, 2003 
So does anyone know of a patch or PAR code to get rid of the second check in Alien Trilogy? Since the second check is done AFTER the game has booted that means that its done by the software, not the saturn. And as long as its software-level it can be hacked with PAR or patched.

Works for the Anti-mod PSX games, a GS code or patch can get rid of their anti-mod protection since the check is software-level.

   mal Jan 30, 2003 
No idea about PAR codes, but how did you go with Golden Axe?