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Saturn Model 1 vs 2
gamefoo21 - Mar 17, 2002

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  gamefoo21 Mar 17, 2002
what are the differences between the two models and what are the benefits of each?

 Cloud121 Mar 17, 2002
Two differences of each are that the Model 1 has oval buttons, and the Model 2 has round circle buttons. Plus the slot where the ribbon cable goes on the motherboard is 20 pins. Whereas on the Model 2 it's 21 pin (I highly doubt you care about that though). The benefit of the Model 1 is that you can perform the swap easily (that's why I want a #### Model 1), but the downside to a Model 1 is that finding a mod-chip for it, is about like finding a needle in a haystack (only harder is what I hear ). The benefit of Model 2 is that mod-chips are easy to find. Downside is that it's harder to the the #### swap trick.

 Raijin Z Mar 17, 2002
I'd trade my Model 1 for a chipped Model 2 in a heartbeat. I hate swapping, even though I'm so damned good at it.

 gamefoo21 Mar 17, 2002
i have found only one problem with swapping the stupid saturn won't pick up after disc one like in mr. bones or panzer i guess it waits to detect the door closing again before it kicks in. so i best get a model 2 so that i can use a mod chip thanx guys for the info.

 Cecilia Chen Mar 19, 2002
Most Chinese stores which mod Saturns can do any version, so you don't need to search for 20 pin mods. They can also make your unit autodetect the game region on startup.

 mal Mar 19, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Quote: from Cecilia Chen on 2:09 am on Mar. 19, 2002



Most Chinese stores which mod Saturns can do any version, so you don't need to search for 20 pin mods. They can also make your unit autodetect the game region on startup.

Just out of interest, where do these Chinese stores exist? As you can see there are many people with model 1 Saturns that want to get them modded. Just saying 'go to a Chinese store' doesn't seem that helpful...

BTW any idea how they do the auto detect?

 Raijin Z Mar 19, 2002
Mailing them is out of the question. I've had payments and materials outright vanish while they were traversing China. God, mailing packages to Australia was faster.... and less theft-ridden.

 mal Mar 19, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Quote: from Raijin Z on 7:14 pm on Mar. 19, 2002



God, mailing packages to Australia was faster.... and less theft-ridden.

I should hope so too.

Although the logic behind the comparison interests me...

 Raijin Z Mar 19, 2002
Australia is a few thousand miles across at least one continent and an ocean from me, depending on which way you go. So is China, just further north. I've never had packages or payment come up missing when mailing back and forth with an associate in Australia, but a few people I was working with in HK had trouble receiving my shipments, and more than once some of their mail to me never arrived.

Oh yeah, I mailed a gun catalog to Malaysia a couple years ago. It took four days to get there, and the only problem during the shipping was on my end. Small town postal employees were too #### nosey about what I was doing mailing packages and money orders all over the planet every week. I've since moved to a city that could care less what I do.

(Edited by Raijin Z at 9:08 am on Mar. 19, 2002)

 Cecilia Chen Mar 19, 2002
Well as for getting them modded, the last time I checked a bunch of stores in Toronto did them. Also you if you wanted, you could just buy a pre-modded system as well.

As for the region detection, Im not sure what electronics they add to the saturn. At one point the import store National Consol Support had also made an autodetect for region settings, but they said because of so many Saturn revisons it was too much of a pain to do everyones.

 ExCyber Mar 19, 2002
That sounds like a BIOS replacement or overlay hack, unless they manage to connect a really basic Satellite-like ROM to the cartridge port while still leaving it usable for other stuff.

 Raijin Z Mar 19, 2002
Hmm... I might be in Toronto for a weekend during May, and I have a few friends who live out that way. I might check around while I'm there, but I only saw one classic game shop when I was out there two years ago.

 Ratamahatta Mar 19, 2002
that classic game shop is on young street by the olive garden, they have tons os sms stuff.

 Raijin Z Mar 19, 2002
Yeah, that was the one. I stuck around Young, Keele, Jane, and Wilson. Together we were FIVE FORCE RANGER TEAM! Or maybe I just drove up and down them for a week.

 ExCyber Mar 19, 2002
So, about how much do pre-modded Saturn systems go for in Canaan^H^H^H^H^H^HToronto?

 crystalmethod Mar 19, 2002
Can you guys let me know an actual stores name in toronto where i can get a mod board or get my stauirn modded??? And what game shop on yonge? yonge and what?

 gamefoo21 Mar 19, 2002
darn why do i gotta live in bc oh well i guess just going to have to get me a mod board and one of those 5 in 1 cart's from china :S

 Cecilia Chen Mar 19, 2002
You can check my post about some chinese stores and Maps. I will post it as soon as possible.

 crystalmethod Mar 19, 2002
Thanks Cecilia...I'd appreciate...I'm not Asian*therefore I can't speak it) and I don't know my why around the Asian districts of the city.

 Raijin Z Mar 20, 2002
Christ, I can't fathom how one would speak "Asian". I think it would be incomprehensible gibberish full of Ks and Ls.

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