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Saturn Joy on Pc
alucardgar - Jun 14, 2003
 alucardgar Jun 14, 2003
I was thinking about adaptating a saturn joy on pc, I found one "map" of pins to stain with the saturn joy plug, but I didn't find a tutorial.

Does anyone knows how to do it?

 Curtis Jun 15, 2003
You'd need some kind of electronic logic chips to properly convert the signals, and a driver for the PC to get it all working. I don't think they make tutorials for that sort of thing.

Then again, Lik-Sang have done all the hard work for you.... I doubt you'd be able to do it so cheaply yourself.

 ExCyber Jun 15, 2003

  
	
	
You'd need some kind of electronic logic chips to properly convert the signals


Actually, all the needed logic can be found in the parallel port controller and the pad itself. Some diodes are needed for power, but that's nothing too serious.


  
	
	
and a driver for the PC to get it all working.


Which can be found here....


  
	
	
I doubt you'd be able to do it so cheaply yourself.


I don't. Still, the PC Magic Box is what I use myself, as it's a whole lot less trouble in general (in particular it doesn't require finding an extension cable or cannibalizing a dead Saturn to avoid permanent conversion of the controller). So far my only gripes with it are:

- It doesn't quite init fast enough, but it turns out that there's a way to compensate for this in Linux (apparently it's a somewhat common problem among HID devices), so it works fine for me now. I assume Windows has something similar or MS would be knee-deep in complaints from hardware manufacturers.

- The button mapping flat-out sucks. It seems to be based on the PSX layout, which doesn't translate real well; the order is something like: Y, B, A, X, Z, L, C, R. Of course, any sane app will let you remap the button functions to deal with this.

- Only the basic controller protocols are supported on the Dreamcast and Saturn interfaces. This means that the analog stick on the Saturn 3D pad doesn't work, and C/Z on the Dreamcast arcade stick don't work, among other things. This is fine if you just want to plug in a basic Saturn pad, but it's a little disappointing.

 Curtis Jun 15, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Curtis@Jun 16, 2003 @ 04:44 AM

You'd need some kind of electronic logic chips to properly convert the signals, and a driver for the PC to get it all working. I don't think they make tutorials for that sort of thing.

Then again, Lik-Sang have done all the hard work for you.... I doubt you'd be able to do it so cheaply yourself.


You see here we have a perfect example of someone who only uses logic to answer a question, without any real knowledge of the subject at hand.

Oh wait...did I say that? Oops.

 Taelon Jun 15, 2003
The truth is out.... mal is a Vulcan.

 mal Jun 15, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Taelon@Jun 16, 2003 @ 07:19 AM

The truth is out.... mal is a Vulcan.


Ahem, who is a Vulcan?

 alucardgar Jun 15, 2003
I already have the driver, but i can't figure this out:



I just dont know the position of those numbers

 alucardgar Jun 15, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Curtis@Jun 15, 2003 @ 05:44 AM

You'd need some kind of electronic logic chips to properly convert the signals, and a driver for the PC to get it all working. I don't think they make tutorials for that sort of thing.



It seems that they do... .

 Taelon Jun 16, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by mal+Jun 15, 2003 @ 07:01 PM-->
QUOTE(mal @ Jun 15, 2003 @ 07:01 PM)