The game was finished for the Sega Saturn.



At about that time, Hitachi made a Saturn system that was not 100%



compatible with Sega's, and the game did not run correctly on it.



We were asked to make the changes which would allow it to run on the



"HI-Saturn," and after a bit of back-and-forth, we even received a loaner



HI-Saturn test system. But, did not do this work because the project was



stopped because the publisher did not belive the the Saturn was going to



make it. The Saturn version of Return Fire was therefore never manufactured



on "protected" CDs and therefore never released.
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by printf@Jan. 23 2003, 6:10 pm



It sounds like you haven't done the swap correctly. Please make sure you try once more to boot this on a regular Saturn with matching region. Also, you might want to see if it boots up using an emulator.



If all this fails, you can always make an image of the CD and give it to someone who owns a mod board. 



What way of "re-releasing" are you talking about? Producing CDs for sale through some shop? Uploading it to a FTP server? Should this be what you intend to do, go ahead, I'm sure somebody will get it to work. 
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Mr. Saturn@Jan. 24 2003, 9:24 am



So i might have to do the swap trick on an american Saturn, although my European Saturn is multinorm?



And if i can get it running, i will print real covers, booklets and printed CDs in a real Saturn case and sell it on my site at cost price (i think 15-25$)...
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by TakaIsSilly@Jan. 24 2003, 11:11 am



What do you mean by multinorm? You got it rigged for 50 and 60Hz? This still doesn't defeat the country code, but this doesn't seem to be the fact:



When you mean that "the SEGA screen appeared" you mean the Licenced by SEGA screen that appears on every game that boots correctly? The pics don't help, since we can't see the contents... the IP.bin could be more usefull, and a binary compare of the files 0 and 1.BIN might help as well... but the executable could simply be of a non-working beta test.



Hn, if this CD was Hi-Saturn thinkered, it _might_ have MPEG movies inside the MOVIES dir, what would crash a non-MPEG-ready Saturn. Won't the developers explain in what condition was this product?



As for you plans, you should know the "community" won't stand idle over that idea, and you'll make many people angry ^o^; Good luck, the Saturn scene needs some shakedown .
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Mr. Saturn@Jan. 24 2003, 7:35 pm



And i just received a message from the developers that they checked the cd they sent me before sending and it worked with an unlocking cd, which means that you'd stick it in the Sega Saturn, and hit the reset button. After a moment, the Sega licensing screen would appear, with the word "COMPLETED" overwriting it in the upper left corner. Then you'd stick in your development game disc, and hit the reset button. So, whatever the unlocking



disc did, it can survive a reset.
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by antime@Jan. 24 2003, 11:57 am



As for your future plans, did you get permission from the authors to sell the game? Personally I don't really care if you charge for copies, especially if you print up manuals and provide packaging, but the copyright owners might be less thrilled.
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by printf@Jan. 24 2003, 1:32 pm



Please extract the CDs ip.bin for us here to check it. A small walkthrough I typed up some days ago for a person that didn't even write back (CDRWin 3.x only, I don't know any newer versions):



Start CDRWin



click on third picture from the left (upper row), which is "Extract Disc/Tracks/Sectors"



in the next window, please adjust the setting to the following:



Extract Mode: select "Select Sectors" here (the white circle to the left of it has to have a black dot in it)



be sure to select your drive where the disc is in under "cd-reader"



image filename: choose a meaningful name, such as c:\rf.bin so you can



find the file easily



file format: automatic is best



Sector Selection (to the right in the middle)



start: 0 end: 15 datatype: mode 1 (2048)



note: the sector selection is very important, please double check on the values



you entered thanks!



hit "Start" in the lower left corner and there you go! after this, please



make the file C:\rf.bin or whatever you called it available for people



to download, or upload it to a ftp server



I'll be glad to make the ip.bin multi-region for you, so the game will never need any region converter. This might be helpful for some people. 
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Daniel Eriksson@Jan. 24 2003, 4:31 pm



Now this sounds quite fantastic! Hmm, I know there are a certain type of CD-R that was published from Sega and those already contained the protection ring. So it is just to burn and play, without the need of any modding. If you are going to sell them (which I hope, I would but one immidialitely!), you could ask this developer if they have any of those. It would make it alot easier!



Sorry for being unable to help with the tech-stuff. I dont know much of it yet.
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Daniel Eriksson@Jan. 24 2003, 6:39 pm



Also, do you know if it is the same as the 3DO version or is it updated in any way?
		
		

	

	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by kyosuke75@Jan. 27 2003, 4:41 pm



If you can put the image up on an ftp or something, I can check it out since I have a modded saturn. If you plan on selling it, how much? I would like a copy as well...



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			Originally posted by antime@Jan. 28 2003, 8:59 am



Well, unless you let someone with the tools and knowledge (eg. printf) take a look at the whole thing there's not much we can do. You probably don't have to make the whole game available, just the data track. The length of the audio tracks would also be good to know, so whoever tries to get it working can add dummy tracks if needed. The audio tracks could also be mp3'd/ogged, quality isn't such a big deal for this.