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mtxblau - Feb 25, 2004

		mtxblau		Feb 25, 2004
			There needs to be a standard on the internet for encodes. Anyway, I have an ogm that came with a srt, from what I read one should be able to view these captions automatically, but they don't show up in either WMP or ZoomPlayer. I converted the srt to a smi (with a vobsub utility), but to no avail. Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing? Or know of how I can merge the two files into say, an ogm? Thanks very much!

		Kaneda		Feb 25, 2004
			an ogm is an avi with one or more audio and one or more subtitles i use BSPlayer with them without pb... first try to find how many audios/subtitle are on the OGM? or perhaps you don't have the codecs, try Gspot to test this..

		antime		Feb 25, 2004
			OGM is another container format, modified form of Xiph.Org's... Ogg. It's not related to AVI. There will be no standard formats because each vendor wants to use their own proprietary ones. Microsoft have AVI and WMV, Apple have QuickTime and so on. MTXBlau, do you have a subtitle mixer... installed?

		mtxblau		Feb 25, 2004
			Yes I do. What a strange predicament. I can't get the subtitles to come up in anything. Any other ideas?

		emazur		Feb 25, 2004
			If I recall correctly, if you have a subtitle file saved with a .txt extension and name it the same as the movie and put it in the same directory, you won't need any special software to display the subtitle, even media player works by default. for example: c:\starwars.avi c:\starwars.txt so if you can convert your subtitle file into text, it might be worth a try. hope this helps

		Alexvrb		Feb 26, 2004
			I recall something like that as well... but I heard that WMP doesn't play them by default (meaning you have to select the option) unless you have some sort of filter installed that does it automatically - like vobsub, and even then you may have to configure vobsub. It should work with .srt and .sub files if they aren't broken, and are named the same as the .avi. Also, it would be possible for you to mux the text stream into an .ogm. I have no experience with it personaly. But then of course you need the Ogg playback filter for media player to run them. You can even mux an .srt or .ssa into an .avi, (was it AVImux-gui?)but then you need a filter that can play it back like VSfilter I think. I myself usually encode the subtitles in permanently myself.

		mtxblau		Feb 27, 2004
			Unfortunately, the text thing didn't work either. But thank you for the suggestions. It does look like I have to remux it - there is a utility that came with VobSub, but it appears that it does it in Uncompressed OGM format, and I don't have enough HD space (for now) to take on however many GBs it decides the file is going to be (I stopped it at 3.6GB). I also tried VirtualDubMOD, but that for some reason keeps crashing, even when I'm trying to extract the AVI (out of bounds error). I'm thinking about just giving up on it. But we'll see.

		Alexvrb		Feb 27, 2004
			So you can't even direct stream copy the video alone to an avi with vdubmob? Even if you disable all the other streams in the stream list? That doesn't sound good. Actually, if you can get vdubmod to direct stream the video, and just add the .srt to the streams and save it as an .ogm, that'd be easier. But it sounds like you're having trouble working with that file period.