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WookMaster P - Jun 19, 2002

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  WookMaster P Jun 19, 2002
Okay I have the iso and the mp3's but I don't have the music.

Do I need to configure them or something?

 Arakon Jun 19, 2002
you could try reading the manual of the emulator, for example.

 JDAdams Jun 19, 2002
He *could* try buying the game, but no-one around here seems to care about little things like morality

 cww80 Jun 20, 2002
JDAdams,

this is a tough one, buy a old game that Sega would get no cut of,(cause it would be used)or download it for free...WookMaster P,made the right choice...

 Arakon Jun 20, 2002
not really.

an original has no music problems, an original has a nice box and manual with artwork etc, and an original looks better on your shelf.

 cww80 Jun 20, 2002
thats true,my original version is down in texas(im in Iowa)...i had no choice but to download it...JDAdams, mentioned that buying it, is the right thing to do...(cause its the moral thing to do)but when it comes to this,it makes no difference to sega, whether its bought or downloaded, cause they dont get jack,either way...(and the guy saves some money)

 JDAdams Jun 20, 2002
It's still wrong. People out there paid good money for the game, as others shouldn't get to play it for free. Besides which, it happens to be illegal, not that this bothers me at all since I only pay attention to those bits of the law I agree with

My main points are:

A) If people can play the game without paying for it, there is less demand for genuine copies, as only collectors will buy them, not just casual gamers. This drives prices down, and de-values people's investments.

It's just plain wrong. Games are luxury items, and people who do not have enough money to buy them legitimately do not deserve to play them.

 M3d10n Jun 20, 2002
You sounds just as a "collector" that buy game for no other purpose than selling it in the future for ver, very high prices, and is now pissed because people can get those games without paying money for them (but they'll endure some effort in order to play them... if they are on 56K ).

 cww80 Jun 21, 2002
that sounds about right...

 JDAdams Jun 21, 2002
Oh no, I play the things, at least in theory. I'm up to [checks] £2220 worth of console games so far, excluding hardware and PC stuff. The figure including these is probably closer to £3.5k, so some of it has barely been touched other than to test if it actually works. I'll finish them all one day, though

My point is that people who won't, or can't, spend the money don't deserve to play the games. Those with both money and morals should see the benefits. That's the foundation of a civilized (capitalist) society.

 cww80 Jun 21, 2002
games were meant to be played...

 JDAdams Jun 21, 2002
Only by those that can afford to - TVs were meant to be watching, but if ya ain't got the cash, that doesn't entitle you to steal one

 sizone Jun 21, 2002
jd, tv's are hardware, an entirely different set of rules applies to intelectual properties bescause it's an entirely different thing.

btw

arakon said

>>>>you could try reading the manual of the emulator, for example.

RTFM,

i love you arakon

 cww80 Jun 21, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by sizone@June 21 2002,22:53



jd, tv's are hardware, an entirely different set of rules applies to intelectual properties bescause it's an entirely different thing.


i second that, bad example, JDAdams...

 JDAdams Jun 22, 2002
It's a very good example. Sure, it's a differrent set of rules, but they both boil down to the same thing - stealing another person's property, intellectual or physical, is both illegal *and* wrong (I do make a pronounced disinction between the two). Theft is theft - only those with at least enough moral fibre to try to justify what they're doing to themselves claim that copying a game isn't a form of theft.

 Silender Jun 22, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Arakon@June 20 2002,20:26



an original looks better on your shelf.


Agrees with Arakon!

 cww80 Jun 22, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by JDAdams@June 22 2002,18:05



It's a very good example. Sure, it's a differrent set of rules, but they both boil down to the same thing - stealing another person's property, intellectual or physical, is both illegal *and* wrong (I do make a pronounced disinction between the two). Theft is theft - only those with at least enough moral fibre to try to justify what they're doing to themselves claim that copying a game isn't a form of theft.


look at it this way, Sega knows all about this site,and yet have done nothing to shut it down...would you like to know why...because those games are no longer for sale...and theres no profit to protect...

 JDAdams Jun 23, 2002
Not for them there isn't. I still have my investments to protect, and *it's still theft*.

 cww80 Jun 23, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by M3d10n@June 20 2002,19:36



You sounds just as a "collector" that buy game for no other purpose than selling it in the future for ver, very high prices, and is now pissed because people can get those games without paying money for them (but they'll endure some effort in order to play them... if they are on 56K  ).


you couldnt of been more right...

 sizone Jun 23, 2002
colecting games in an effort to sell them to someone else at a later point in time is a ridiculously bad idea.

just think of how much comic books aren't worth.

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