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SkankinMonkey - Aug 27, 2002

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		SkankinMonkey	Aug 27, 2002
		Discuss this news article here.

		Zziggy00	Aug 27, 2002
		MP3 no longer free?? yeah right , it's just like metallica's big halt on the free shareing of their music. They made an impact but you can still get it all over the place. What will they do about all the current and previous MP3 software encoders, get rid of all of them and make it so you can't download one off the net. Seriously, I don't think it will mean much, people that want MP3 will get it, but it will push new free fromats more quickly into the public. Makeing MP3 a thing of the past, that will take quite some time though

		mal	Aug 27, 2002
		Looks like Ogg Vorbis will be the way to go. But these royalites are only going to be charged on new products, aren't they? Plenty of current software supports mp3s. Mp3 won't die off quite yet.

		Quadriflax	Aug 27, 2002
		I guess I don't understand how that could possibly work. People can still use old software to create and use MP3s. This will only kill the format. If they wanted to make money off it they should have pulled this a long time ago, right when it was first getting big. Time for something better!

		SkankinMonkey	Aug 27, 2002
		This is for decoders (ie winamp), not encoders.

		doctorBone	Aug 27, 2002
		Actaully, normal users like us won't have to worry about paying for an mp3 player. Nullsoft is already licensed, according to this website: mp3licensing.com... I think that Thomson/Fraunhofer are increasing the amount you have to pay, like $.75 per player, or a lump sum of around $50,000 - $65,000, from what I've heard. The only people that will be hurt by this will be the companies offering players (Like AOL/Nullsoft, Microsoft), but I am worried about the open source ones (XMMS for Linux). I wish I could switch to ogg, but its a pretty hard thing to do when you have a lot of mp3s. You have to re-rip everything, otherwise if you try to convert directly mp3->ogg, you lose sound quality. Hopefully, someday we can use an open format, but right now, mp3 is too entrenched, everybody and their grandma is using it .

		GrauhTheGray	Aug 27, 2002
		El Ogg Vorbis Must be the way to go. Edit: Hmm....Might as well open an Ogg Vorbis Archive.

		Curtis	Aug 28, 2002
		Assuming they sucessfully implement whatever schemes they (whoever the hell "they" are...) use to enforce royalties, I sure won't mind switching to OGG. The quality is undeniably superior to anything MP3 can produce.

		DBOY	Aug 28, 2002
		I can't even tell the difference.

		SkankinMonkey	Aug 28, 2002
		Originally posted by DBOY@Aug. 28 2002, 9:39 am I can't even tell the difference. And that is why your ears bleed

		googlefest1	Aug 28, 2002
		or hes got an audigy mp3 card mp3 sound totaly diferent on that ive got 7 sound cards and only the audigy mp3 sounds like a cd also what is oog vorbis? that thing came with the audigy but i thougth it sucked when i checked it out -- i'll have to install it again -- i thought it was a money making gimick there was something about it like that-- well i'll install it again, but if someone knows where to get a better one that dosent ask to register or conect to some server let me know

		SkankinMonkey	Aug 28, 2002
		mp3's are in no way enhanced by the sound card, it will sound the exact same if you burn a mp3 onto a redbook audio cd.

		racketboy	Aug 28, 2002
		The only thing is that there are already tons of MP3 enabled electronics out there already. My DVD player and CD walkman can all play MP3. I'm not going to switch over to Ogg Vorbis unless my players play them. I hardly ever listed to music on my computer.

		SkankinMonkey	Aug 28, 2002
		I don't think you understood the point of the article.

		mtxblau	Aug 28, 2002
		Well speaking of mp3s, interestingly, the RIAA's website was hacked today. For a short time today you were able to download mp3s from the website itself.

		maidtina	Aug 29, 2002
		heheheh, thats what happens when you have a logo that looks like a bullseye!!!! ARF!

		mal	Aug 30, 2002
		The Register has an article... that makes for a good read. The wayback machine... can be really useful. ::

		mal	Aug 31, 2002
		Is this all just a beat up...? A spokesperson for Thompson Multimedia says... Ogg Vorbis are just using a slight change in Website wording to gain publicity and that freely distributed software decoders will remain royalty free. ???

		SkankinMonkey	Aug 31, 2002
		The opt-out is still there, as of the change of their liscense they can now technically charge anyone, and most believe that was their intention till the shit hit the fan, now they're claiming the change was just for hardware decoders. So why would free hardware decoders have to play a liscense fee and software not? Sounds like fraunhaufer is just trying to cover their asses to me.

		DBOY	Aug 31, 2002
		Skank: What the hell MP3 encoding quality you listen to? 256 sounds the same as my CD's. Maybe you're listening to MP3's made by people with shitty encoders at shitty rates

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