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IBarracudaI - Nov 24, 2003
  IBarracudaI Nov 24, 2003
My almost 4-year old geforce1 died this weekend... nothing special, it was giving some strange probs sometimes... Just to make sure it wasn't agp's fault, i used another card from a friend's pc and it worked perfectly.. so I gave him the card back, and have been using a tnt2 pci card that I had here...

So.. this morning I woke up.. the pc was working perfectly... went to a computer store and bought a geforce4 fx5200.. when i got home.. I turned off my pc swapped the cards and when i turned it on.... nothing happens... PC's fans aren't even working...

Then I started testing a lot of things.. I started with the PSU.. used it in another computer and it worked perfectly... after that, with the psu back in my pc, i took of psu's connector to the mobo, and shorted two pins (green & black) and then plugged the power cord and PSU's fan worked and hdd's cdrom's fdd's powered on also... so I think PSU is ok...

Next I removed everything from the mobo.. just left the cpu in... still doesn't turn ON.. doesn't even gives a life signal

I though about Power switch may be faulty.. so I used the reset switch connector and plugged it on PowerSW pins.. still doesn't work...

I've also tried without the CPU in... same thing... completely dead... (do mobo's start up without a cpu in?)

I'm out of ideas....

PC's specs:

P3 600Mhz (133mhz fsb)

512MB RAM 133mhz

sound card.. the video card... and a nic..

Edit: I've also tried removing the cmos battery... and moving around that cmos reset jumper...

 dhau Nov 24, 2003
Hey dude, I think GF FX is heavy on power consumption. Get yourself a 350-420 Watt PSU, and it should work fine. I have a mobo, which works fine with 350W PSU and GF3, and doesn't work with 350W PSU and Radeon 9800Pro. However if I use my new 420W PSU, all works fine again.

Recent components are too hot, and they dissipate a lot of energy. Especially stuff like latest Radeons and GeForces and Athlon XP / Barton CPUs.

 IBarracudaI Nov 24, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Next I removed everything from the mobo.. just left the cpu in... still doesn't turn ON.. doesn't even gives a life signal


...... It doesn't turn on.. and I took everything out...

 racketboy Nov 24, 2003
a new PIII mobo shouldn't cost too much, should it?

 RitualOfTheTrout Nov 24, 2003
Are you sure the graphic card you got was the right voltage? I know some AGP mother boards can only run 1.5v cards, and if u put one in thats to much it fries the board.

Luckly my Asus mobo has a built in thing that wont let the pc start up and damage itself if i were to make such a mistake.

 Curtis Nov 24, 2003
Yes I'd say that was the problem. The newer AGP 4x/8x standards (likely what the FX5200 uses) are different from the old 1x/2x. A motherboard of that vintage probably only complys with the original specification. Still, I would have though that'd fry the new graphics card instead of the motherboard.

 Scared0o0Rabbit Nov 24, 2003
agp 1x isn't even the same shape

 IBarracudaI Nov 24, 2003
damn..

I didn't think about that voltage detail.... * slaps himself *

I guess that's it... I'll try the gfx card tomorrow on my friends pc.. I still have some hope that the card is okay...

I think I can find a _new_ motherboard.. hope it is the only thing that died...

Thank you guys..

 Alexvrb Nov 24, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by dhau@Nov 24, 2003 @ 03:57 PM



 Hey dude, I think GF FX is heavy on power consumption.


Not a 5200.

Anyway, you could replace the board. If it is indeed toast - you could always borrow your friend's GPU again to test it out. But a decent replacement board with AGP and everything may cost a bit more than I would think its worth. At that point I almost wonder if it isn't better to get a cheap Athlon board and a lowend Athlon XP. You could get something based on SiS 735 and there are SDR-based KT266 (maybe even 266A) boards.

 IBarracudaI Nov 25, 2003
Some good news... just tried out the 5200 on another pc and it worked perfectly it's pretty strange though... if anything got toasted would be the gfx card only or both mobo and the gfx...

What about a g4 mx440 can it run on older agp slots?

 racketboy Nov 25, 2003
the older versions of AGP slots (1X and 2X, I think) have different voltages than the newer revisions. I think the slots are slightly different on the ends too.

 Scared0o0Rabbit Nov 25, 2003
Not sure, if you are agp 1x 2x then just goto a pc store and look at graphics cards and see if they say 1x or 2x on the side.

 RitualOfTheTrout Nov 25, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by IBarracudaI@Nov 25, 2003 @ 03:51 AM



I guess that's it... I'll try the gfx card tomorrow on my friends pc.. I still have some hope that the card is okay...


Yeah i dont know if it damages the card, i just know i read that it can damage the mobo. Considering the fact it worked fine b4 u put the new card in it seems to be the most likely cause.

 racketboy Nov 25, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by RitualOfTheTrout+Nov 25, 2003 @ 10:32 PM-->
QUOTE(RitualOfTheTrout @ Nov 25, 2003 @ 10:32 PM)