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Originally posted by M3d10n@May 31, 2003 @ 11:06 AM

It might not help 100%, but...

Download ISOBuster. It can open a .BIN file without a .CUE and, most of the times, it'll show all tracks it contains.

You then can extract the individual tracks and try a burn.

FILE "LUNAR THE SILVER STAR.BIN" BINARY

TRACK 01 MODE1/2352

INDEX 01 00:00:00

TRACK 02 AUDIO

PREGAP 00:02:00

INDEX 01 01:12:22

TRACK 03 AUDIO

INDEX 01 01:28:29

TRACK 04 AUDIO

INDEX 01 03:14:13

TRACK 05 AUDIO

INDEX 01 04:26:12

TRACK 06 AUDIO

INDEX 01 05:51:17

TRACK 07 AUDIO

INDEX 01 07:19:09

TRACK 08 AUDIO

INDEX 01 08:37:21

TRACK 09 AUDIO

INDEX 01 09:56:35

TRACK 10 AUDIO

INDEX 01 11:09:36

TRACK 11 AUDIO

INDEX 01 12:27:56

TRACK 12 AUDIO

INDEX 01 13:56:54

TRACK 13 AUDIO

INDEX 01 15:24:67

TRACK 14 AUDIO

INDEX 01 16:50:48

TRACK 15 AUDIO

INDEX 01 17:57:17

TRACK 16 AUDIO

INDEX 01 19:03:44

TRACK 17 AUDIO

INDEX 01 20:19:03

TRACK 18 AUDIO

INDEX 01 21:08:46

TRACK 19 AUDIO

INDEX 01 22:27:15

TRACK 20 AUDIO

INDEX 01 23:09:05

TRACK 21 AUDIO

INDEX 01 23:52:41

TRACK 22 AUDIO

INDEX 01 25:17:17

TRACK 23 AUDIO

INDEX 01 26:26:29

TRACK 24 AUDIO

INDEX 01 27:09:55

TRACK 25 AUDIO

INDEX 01 27:29:17

TRACK 26 AUDIO

INDEX 01 27:50:40

TRACK 27 AUDIO

INDEX 01 28:13:65

TRACK 28 AUDIO

INDEX 01 28:37:14

TRACK 29 AUDIO

INDEX 01 30:05:15

TRACK 30 AUDIO

INDEX 01 31:06:16

TRACK 31 AUDIO

INDEX 01 32:15:48

TRACK 32 AUDIO

INDEX 01 32:36:21

TRACK 33 AUDIO

INDEX 01 33:00:50

TRACK 34 AUDIO

INDEX 01 33:31:51

TRACK 35 AUDIO

INDEX 01 33:49:47

TRACK 36 AUDIO

INDEX 01 34:10:41

TRACK 37 AUDIO

INDEX 01 34:32:04

TRACK 38 AUDIO

INDEX 01 36:08:05

TRACK 39 AUDIO

INDEX 01 37:13:56

TRACK 40 AUDIO

INDEX 01 37:35:62

TRACK 41 AUDIO

INDEX 01 38:09:63

TRACK 42 AUDIO

INDEX 01 38:34:61

TRACK 43 AUDIO

INDEX 01 39:26:62

TRACK 44 AUDIO

INDEX 01 39:51:37

TRACK 45 AUDIO

INDEX 01 40:23:38

TRACK 46 AUDIO

INDEX 01 40:50:39

TRACK 47 AUDIO

INDEX 01 41:13:40

TRACK 48 AUDIO

INDEX 01 42:18:52

TRACK 49 AUDIO

INDEX 01 45:30:53

TRACK 50 AUDIO

INDEX 01 45:48:37

TRACK 51 AUDIO

INDEX 01 46:16:69

TRACK 52 AUDIO

INDEX 01 46:26:04

Originally posted by Taelon+Jun 2, 2003 @ 07:51 PM-->
QUOTE(Taelon @ Jun 2, 2003 @ 07:51 PM)

FOUND IT!!

FILE "LUNAR THE SILVER STAR.BIN" BINARY

TRACK 01 MODE1/2352

INDEX 01 00:00:00

TRACK 02 AUDIO

PREGAP 00:02:00

INDEX 01 01:12:22

TRACK 03 AUDIO

INDEX 01 01:28:29

TRACK 04 AUDIO

INDEX 01 03:14:13

TRACK 05 AUDIO

INDEX 01 04:26:12

TRACK 06 AUDIO

INDEX 01 05:51:17

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TRACK 52 AUDIO

INDEX 01 46:26:04

This cuesheet should work perfectly, as long as your .bin is a raw-mode image (i.e. Track 1 really is Mode1/2352 and not Mode1/2048). That's pretty likely to be the case, though.

Tell us how this works for ya. [/b]

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		Edge-`		May 30, 2003
			Does anyone happen to have the cuesheet/data layout for Lunar: Silver Star Story? I have a raw binary of the CD, and imagine it has a couple music tracks. If you could post the rest of the CUE, it would be much appreciated .

		Tagrineth		May 30, 2003
			It isn't that hard to make a cue-sheet yourself you know =) And you can't really know what data format the rip uses unless you analyse it somehow... but most should work in mode1/2048, I think.

		Edge-`		May 30, 2003
			Yep, I'm quite aware it is easy to create the cue myself... but, if I'm unaware of where the cuepoints are, is it not going to make a useless coaster? Even binchunker requires the cue, NOT just the bin to seperate the data from the CD tracks. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that one would need to know where the cuepoints are to properly burn a .bin. So with that said, I'm still after a .cue so I know where the cuepoints are... not because I'm unaware of how to make my own cuesheets. Thanks :>

		klakalou		May 30, 2003
			i thought u known that there is a program called sega cue maker where it makes the cue sheet from scratch for you. i have it, and if u need it, im sure there are ftp's that have it, and if not, i can up it. edit: bin file???

		racketboy		May 30, 2003
			you can't make a cue out of just a bin, can you? you need the game in ISO mp3 format , I think

		Edge-`		May 30, 2003
			OK, maybe I'm not making myself clear. There are ISO+MP3, which I often find myself using the Sega Cue Maker to make cue's for often. And there are BIN+CUE. The .BIN is the binary,raw image of the entire CD. The CUE tells where on this raw image each track begins and stops. Without the CUE, the .BIN is just one track of raw data, as far as the burner can tell. I have a BIN, but no CUE. Sega Cue Maker can make a cue for ISO+MP3 because it reads the ISO and all of the mp3s and knows where on the CD each track is going to go... now if I have a BIN, without a CUE, I have no idea where in the BIN the seperate tracks are. For example, it may have 2 tracks (the game and 1 audio), and it may have 20 (1 game, 19 audio). The only way to tell is from the cuesheet that is generated when the BIN was generated. So, I have a BIN, not MP3+ISO. I can't just burn the .BIN as is without the Correct cue sheet telling where one this binary image (.BIN) the game stops and the audio tracks begin/end. If it was just the game and no audio, that would work fine. But its not, I tried . I just need someone who has the game, or has burned the game to look at the cuesheet and tell me it . Someone upped it to me sometime ago without the cue in case you are curious why I'm wanting it and don't have the cue to start with.

		Edge-`		May 30, 2003
			Right on Racketboy, which is why I need someone who has it to tell me the cue .

		MasterAkumaMatata		May 31, 2003
			That's not going to work if the game has CDDA tracks (i.e., music tracks; audio tracks).

		mal		May 31, 2003
			I have feeling of deja vu... The only way to accurately burn a working copy of a .bin is with a cuesheet made when an image is ripped. I'm sure I said that to you last time klakalou. Sorry Edge-`, I haven't got that one.

		M3d10n		May 31, 2003
			It might not help 100%, but... Download ISOBuster. It can open a .BIN file without a .CUE and, most of the times, it'll show all tracks it contains. You then can extract the individual tracks and try a burn.

		racketboy		Jun 2, 2003
			that's a lot of tracks Good job Taelon! arty

		klakalou		Jun 3, 2003
			go taelon, its ya birthday! tosses dai some salty peanuts

		Taelon		Jun 3, 2003
			bows left bows right Anyone want an encore? LOL. Nahh, just glad I could help

		mal		May 31, 2003
			Frankly, I'd be surprised if it could. Without the cuesheet, what would it look for to seperate the tracks?

		klakalou		May 31, 2003
			yes im aware of this akumamatata and mal, but i thought i would at least post it for the hell of it. it may be useful to someone in the future.

		Edge-`		Jun 3, 2003
			Whoo! Thanks Taelon, finally got exactly what I was after since the first post :>. Thanks everyone else for giving me some advice, lots of good tips for other problems. And to recap this for others who view this thread: If you have a .bin, without a .cue... there is no accurate way to figure out what the track layout is. You'll need the .cue that was made along with the .bin when the CD was ripped. Thanks Taelon and others, worked great!