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Is it a myth?
calganagain - Oct 28, 2001
 calganagain Oct 28, 2001
I was wondering if there is a boot disc or boot disc image I can use to play imports on the Pal Sega Saturn.

(Edited by calganagain at 3:48 pm on Oct. 28, 2001)

 IceDigger Oct 28, 2001
no.

 calganagain Oct 28, 2001
What do you mean by "no"?

a.)No, it is not a myth.

b.)No, neither one exists.

 Curtis Oct 28, 2001
yes

 Service Games Oct 28, 2001
No

 calganagain Oct 28, 2001
Maybe so

Where is the image or the disc?

 IceDigger Oct 28, 2001
alright.

turn on brain and think.

what do you need to boot a cdr on saturn? a modchip.

so, you'd have to install a 30$ modchip to boot a boot cd to play imports. now where's the sense in that? go buy a 15$ import cart.

 MasterAkumaMatata Oct 29, 2001
BTW, the cdr Arakon mentioned above refers to a boot disc that's burned to CD-R, in case you're wondering.

 calganagain Oct 29, 2001
That ends any questions about images but what about discs?

The DC-X doesn't need a modchip but I think it works because the DC does accept cdr's. Could a CD boot disc or converter be made for the Pal/NSTC SS?

Why does the swap trick work? Does it read the region code of the first disc and goes on to the next disc with the same(first) region code?

 megametalgreymon Oct 29, 2001
there is also different discs depending if it was a first-party or third party developer that used it, so one disc wont work for every game

the swap trick and modchip only defeat the copy protection, the cart/switch modification only defeats the teritory protection

if your looking for just playing original imports get a cart, if you looking for copies import or otherwise get a modchip and use the satconv utility to patch them

 IceDigger Oct 29, 2001
the production of a bootcd would have to be done on the actual sega cd pressing machines and would be a total waste of money (now how many would be buying one of those? prolly not even 100 people), especially cause any cheapo import adapter cart can play imports better.

dc does not have a protection against cdrs, so it can be made to boot cd games.. saturn does have a protection.

the swap will NOT defeat the country protection, ONLY the cd r protection, by reading the protection ring off an original, and the game off the copy.

 calganagain Oct 29, 2001

  
	
	
the production of a bootcd would have to be done on the actual sega cd pressing machines and would be a total waste of money


Did they use the same pressing machine to create sega cd games and sega saturn games?


  
	
	
the swap will NOT defeat the country protection, ONLY the cd r protection, by reading the protection ring off an original, and the game off the copy.


Does the mod chip for the Playstation do both(defeats country and copy protection)?

"the cart/switch modification only defeats the teritory protection

if your looking for just playing original imports get a cart"

Is there a guide on how to create/install a switch? Did the developer's have a SS with a pre-installed switch?

 IceDigger Oct 29, 2001
that's "sega cd pressing machine", not "segacd pressing machine".

the psx mod defeats both copy and country protection, but that's due to the nature of the psx.. both checks use the same line, the same signals, so they can both be disabled.

saturn switch:

http://www.trsoft.demon.co.uk/satmod.htm...

http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/