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Xavier - May 17, 2002
  Xavier May 17, 2002
Anybody else out there like these other than me ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....=0&rd=1...

 gamefoo21 May 17, 2002
i am still sad that beta beat out vhs

 Xavier May 17, 2002
Sad that beta was beat out by vhs ?

Ive havent really seen to many beta movies but ive heard that they were smaller than vhs and a better quality .

Its the damned Sony they make somthing and they make it praipritary (sp) Same problem apples always had . If you want to make software/movies for there structures then you have to clear it through them and GIVE THEM SOME $ . That was the problem with those 8mm movies I showed you . 8mm is smaller than a cassette tape better quality than vhs but not as good as laserdisc or dvd . But the warmth from the picture and sound is untouched . Couldve been big .

Big Pioneer corner the market on laserdisc (yes and no) they made the better player out there , but as far as I know didnt restrict or try to what movies were made and by who . So because of that laserdisc has the biggest selection of titles .

Well they stopped making laserdisc a year or two ago but i digress .

 ExCyber May 17, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Its the damned Sony they make somthing and they make it praipritary (sp) Same problem apples always had .


Actually, a lot of "open" standards start out as a proprietary product and then some combination of dumb luck and shewd business decisions allows other companies to get in on the action (usually this involves paying patent royalties to the original manufacturer). I'm pretty sure that this is what happened with VHS (which is owned by JVC/Victor).

 gamefoo21 May 18, 2002
who owned dvd??? and cdrom???

 ExCyber May 18, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			who owned dvd???


It seems that various bits are owned by the members of the original DVD Consortium (now the DVD Forum...) - Hitachi, Matsushita (Panasonic), Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Thomson Multimedia, Time-Warner, Toshiba, and JVC/Victor. Licensing is currently handled via the DVD Format and Logo Licensing Corporation... (abbreviated "DVD FLLC"). It looks like the bulk of it is in patents owned by Sony, Philips, and Pioneer.


  
	
	

		
		

			and cdrom???


Sony and Philips. Licensing is apparently handled by Philips, which controls the various "Compact Disc" logos and divides the technical standards into various "books" - Red Book defines the original CDDA standard, Yellow Book defines the CD-ROM standard.

 gamefoo21 May 18, 2002
dude you know too much

 SkankinMonkey May 18, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by ExCyber@May 18 2002,02:16








  
	
	

		
		

			who owned dvd???
		

		

	





It seems that various bits are owned by the members of the original DVD Consortium (now the DVD Forum...) - Hitachi, Matsushita (Panasonic), Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Sony, Thomson Multimedia, Time-Warner, Toshiba, and JVC/Victor. Licensing is currently handled via the DVD Format and Logo Licensing Corporation... (abbreviated "DVD FLLC"). It looks like the bulk of it is in patents owned by Sony, Philips, and Pioneer.








  
	
	

		
		

			and cdrom???
		

		

	





Sony and Philips. Licensing is apparently handled by Philips, which controls the various "Compact Disc" logos and divides the technical standards into various "books" - Red Book defines the original CDDA standard, Yellow Book defines the CD-ROM standard.


Which is kinda funny if you've been following the whole CD-logo saga. Phillips is saying they're not gonna liscense any CD's that don't follow exactly to the redbook format (ie if they use these new copy protection procedures) and a lot of big companies are mad, but Phillips has the ultimate say i guess

 mal May 18, 2002
I think it's funny that Sony is putting out so called 'copy protected' discs.

 maidtina May 18, 2002
Here's a fun fact for ya, do you know the main reason why VHS beat betamax? The owners of the betamax standard would not allow their standard to be used for pornography. Result - VHS is more popular. Same story for a lot of other technology even the postal service. Also one day they will figure out another use for DVD's "multi angle" technology

 FAKK2 May 18, 2002
I personally hate vhs and didnt like beta either, Ive owned LD since 1980 so I only expect the highest of quality....I purchased different LD players over the years, and still to this day prefer LD over DVD....everytime I buy a DVD Im happy for a bit then I buy the LD and compare.....result....my friends own the DVDs now. and if they didnt take them....well...I guess there fun to throw and shoot with a shotgun. and whoever stated that they dont make LDs anymore...your wrong Pioneer of Japan still manufactures them all the time....US LDs and Japan LDs....In fact My Titan A.E. is my favorite LD and it came out on LD about 8 months ago. I buy new LDs all the time.....DVDs are too compressed and look crappy at times...but Pioneer is changing the format killing both dvd and LD its called Blue Light DVD and it will have 18 gb on each side of the double sided dvds....it will be most like LD and it will phase out everything we know to be perfect quality....I cant wait for it..... new technology can be a really good thing.

 ExCyber May 18, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Ive owned LD since 1980 so I only expect the highest of quality


Which is funny, because LD (like VHS and Beta) stores video in the crappiest signal formats known to man. Apparently it just does it really, really well.


  
	
	

		
		

			DVDs are too compressed and look crappy at times


This is true, but from what I've heard it mostly happens with badly-mastered DVDs and cheap players. You shouldn't have to spend a bunch of money to get decent playback quality, but apparently with DVD you need to. Still, this is sadly the direction everything is going in, with cable and satellite systems pushing their "digital quality" so that they can cram as many channels as possible into as little bandwidth as possible. Sooner or later analog transmission will probably be phased out...

 Quadriflax May 18, 2002
Yeah, but when 99% of the population really doesn't notice/care, what are you gonna do? MP3s aren't as good as CDs which aren't as good as records etc. But the average person doesn't notice a difference or is willing to sacrifice the extra quality for convenience.

 archiver May 18, 2002

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by soldermonkey@May 17 2002,07:30



Here's a fun fact for ya, do you know the main reason why VHS beat betamax? The owners of the betamax standard would not allow their standard to be used for pornography. Result - VHS is more popular. Same story for a lot of other technology even the postal service. Also one day they will figure out another use for DVD's "multi angle" technology


That might be a fraction of it, but this is how I remember it:

VHS was simply more abundant and _cheaper_. I remember going to all the video stores (there were a lot more 20 years ago, only more small businesses)

Betamax players were considerably more expensive (See? Sony sold overpriced stuff 20 years ago), and the general answer that would come up when people asked "VHS or beta?" was VHS, simply because there were more titles and more machines in people's homes

Sony amuses me in how they like to try an introduce their own "standards" (Beta, MiniDisc, and the Super CD format, which imho is already dead) and keep a deathlock on them, they fall on their ass every time.

I still know of one store that still rents beta tapes, it's kind of cool to see for nostalgia

 archiver May 18, 2002
Also, one other note:

More people confusingly interchanged the terms VHS / VCR as if they meant the exact same thing (more than Betamax / VHS).

 Xavier Jun 2, 2002
ok back to my original question does anybody else like 8mm movies ?

 Mike G Jun 3, 2002
"8mm" generally means movie FILM, not video tape. The two are quite often confused - I've heard of people asking (in Tandy/Radio Shack and other clueless places) for 8mm film for their old movie camera, and being sold Video 8 cassettes!

Mike

 Falstaf Jun 3, 2002
I remember 8mm film. Home movies, old films, cartoons and early porn.

 Xavier Jun 3, 2002
Ok anybody like video 8 movies ?

Like the link I provided?