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Cloud121 - Oct 31, 2003

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  Cloud121 Oct 31, 2003
Well, I got the newest OPM in the mail yesterday. They usually clutter the cover (RHYMES!) with other stuff, but this time it's just "Final Fantasy X-2" <_<

Anyway, I can say to you now, this is gonna blow. The battle system goes back to ATB. Now, after FFIV - FFIX you'd expect this to be no problem, as it's great in those. However, in this one, it is FAST! You REALLY have to enter commands in a flash if you wanna get anywhere. I'm probably just too used to the turned based battles of PS, PSII, PSIII, PSIV, Chrono Cross, and the slower ATB systems. The whole transformation thing that they were hyping. It's hard to do so, while still worrying about the fight, due to it's speed. I transformed Yuna and Rikku into the Swordswoman outfit, (as Paine is by default), and they had the EXACT same commands as Paine. I was dissapointed by this.

Also, the victory music is not the traditional FF one. It's some weird composition that doesn't really fit. The adventure elements (press Circle and you can jump, and climb at certain parts) is pretty cool, but... it just seems too... EH! I dunno.

The VAs from FFX are back. Yuna sounds WORSE (and she sounded bad in FFX...), Rikku sounded great in FFX, but now she sounds EXACTLY like Bubbles from Power Puff Girls (The VA that does Bubbles, did Rikku in FFX and FFX-2). Paine sounds just as I thought she would. Badass as hell, while still looking jaw-dropping good

The character designs are... eh... It's clear Square released this for the fucking Rikku fanboys in mind. UGH! I just hope I can get used to it, by the time I buy the final product (comes out on the 18th of November), in January or February.

OPM has a whole section on the disc dedicated to FFX-2. The Eternal Calm prequel (which was included in FFX International), a Video, and the Demo. I was laughing my ass off at the beginning of the video.

"From time to time, a game emerges that is so fun, and so addictive, that it becomes ruler of it's genre. In the world of Role-Playing Games, the Final Fantasy series is King." :bs :looney :blah

Yeah, to those who haven't played Phantasy Star, Chrono Cross, Ys, Breath of Fire, etc.

It becomes ruler of it's genre eh? Um... it came out in 1994 under the name "Phantasy Star IV" :bow

Anyway, this is the best Demo Disc is clearly OPM's best one since August 2002 (which was the last one that had quite a few big name game demos). Check this list out:

Final Fantasy X-2 <_<

Castlevania: Lament of Innocence (After seeing the commercial, and knowing the storied history of Castlevania, this is big! I love Castlevania, and CVIII. I've been dying to play SoTN/Dracula X for as long as I can remember)

XIII (Been getting hyped for months. It seems pretty cool)

Need for Speed Underground (After playing... HOLY SHIT! THOSE ARE PoS2 GRAPHICS!!!!????!??! UNBELIEVEABLE!)

NFL GameDay 2004 (Been wanting to play this for quite awhile, I'd say it's a VERY CLOSE second to 2K4 for this year)

NCAA GameBreaker 2004 (Iowa State isn't playable.... <_< although all NFL teams are available in the GameDay demo, I was hoping for all 117 teams to be available in the NCAA demo)

Secret Weapons Over Normandy (Haven't played yet)

I-Ninja (Haven't played yet either)

That's quite the list of big name titles. I'm gonna play the GameDay demo some more. I still need to play the Castlevania demo though....

I still laugh my ass off at that FFX-2 video. :lol:

 Des-ROW Oct 31, 2003
I already finished Final Fantasy X-2 months ago and I really loved it, the battle system is great, the graphic engine is better, I liked it very much.

 racketboy Oct 31, 2003
it looks like a more girly game

are my impressions correct?

 Tagrineth Oct 31, 2003
Cloud, if you think FFX-2 is too fast, just go into the subscreen, go to the config, and TURN THE ATB SPEED DOWN. That option has been in every ATB-enabled game except Chrono Trigger and IIRC also FFIV. MAYBE FFV, but it's been a while since I last played that one.

And go ahead, call it blaspheme if you want, but I really did not care at all for Phantasy Star 2 or 3 (only ones I played at all)... and while I adore Breath of Fire, IMO Final Fantasy is still tops... with one exception, Panzer Dragoon Saga.

 racketboy Oct 31, 2003
Skies of Arcadia for me

 it290 Oct 31, 2003
Arg, I just still can't understand why they decided to make a sequel for one of the worst FF games. Oh well, at least FFTA is pretty good. I guess I've just become disillusioned with console RPGs for the most part- every once and awhile a good one comes along, but most of them are just so generic.

 Cloud121 Oct 31, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by it290@Oct 31, 2003 @ 09:24 PM



 Argh, I just still can't understand why they decided to make a sequel for one of the worst FF games. Oh well, at least FFTA is pretty good. I guess I've just become disillusioned with console RPGs for the most part- every once and awhile a good one comes along, but most of them are just so generic.


You damn right! I LOVED FFX once I first played it and beat it. But after playing the likes of Chrono Cross :bow, and Phantasy Star IV :bow, I realize that it really wasn't all that great of a game. It's just a cheap knock-off of Phantasy Star II in my eyes! I realized that after I played and beat PSII (11 months and 3 weeks after beat FFX).

 Cloud121 Nov 1, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Tagrineth@Oct 31, 2003 @ 06:44 PM



 Cloud, if you think FFX-2 is too fast, just go into the subscreen, go to the config, and TURN THE ATB SPEED DOWN. That option has been in every ATB-enabled game except Chrono Trigger and IIRC also FFIV. MAYBE FFV, but it's been a while since I last played that one.



And go ahead, call it blaspheme if you want, but I really did not care at all for Phantasy Star 2 or 3 (only ones I played at all)... and while I adore Breath of Fire, IMO Final Fantasy is still tops... with one exception, Panzer Dragoon Saga.


Play Phantasy Star IV :bow , and get back to me

Well, in FFVII - FFIX, I'd crank the ATB speed to the MAX, and it was still MUCH slower than this. It played at a much better pace. It was in FFIV - FFVI as well. Chrono Trigger also.

 aaron Nov 1, 2003
i can't wait for this game. i'm a fanboy, yes, but i seriously just can't wait to play this game. i'll probably pick up that issue of OPM, even though i never read that mag.

oh, should i pay 17 bucks for a used, complete copy of PSII for genesis? it's sitting at a store near me and i'm wondering if it's worth it. never got into it, really.

 gameboy900 Nov 1, 2003
Does this complete copy come with the strategy book? Which as far as I know was part of the package and I have.

 cww80 Nov 1, 2003
I'm a Final Fantasy fan, but couldn't stand the crap that is/was FFX.

I'll most likely pass on cash in, errr FFX-2...

 Cloud121 Nov 1, 2003

  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by cww80@Nov 1, 2003 @ 08:16 PM



 I'm a Final Fantasy fan, but couldn't stand the crap that is/was FFX. 



I'll most likely pass on cash in, errr FFX-2...


:thumbs-up:

And Aaron...

YES YES YES! BUY IT NOW! When I bought all three back in January, it cost me $31 ($36 of you count shipping) for all three. They were all loose though. BUY IT NOW! Then give me the case and instructions (and the strategy book if it's included)

Yes, the strategy book did come with the original release back in 1989.

 Nadius Nov 2, 2003
If we're talking the best rpg series, Phantasy Star takes the cake. Best game? It's hard to decide between FFVI, FFI, Phantasy Star II and Phantasy Star III

Edit: also, my best friend wants me to get ffxi and play online with him, but my girlfriend doesn't want me to... Is FFXI worth getting my girlfriend upset at me?

 CrazyGoon Nov 2, 2003
I first heard this game was centred around the main chick character in FFX, and she has guns and wears some stupid outfit. To me it seemed as though it was targeted towards young, male Final Fantasy Fanboys (FFF) :lol:. I thought it was some 3D action game rather than a RPG, but this was ages ago and I haven't looked up this game since Hell, I didn't even bother reading this thread until now . Now on to some quoting! :devil


  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Cloud121+Oct 31, 2003 @ 07:17 PM-->
QUOTE(Cloud121 @ Oct 31, 2003 @ 07:17 PM)
"From time to time, a game emerges that is so fun, and so addictive, that it becomes ruler of it's genre. In the world of Role-Playing Games, the Final Fantasy series is King."[/b]



Yeah, though apart from when Pokemon had it's shine in the light, Final Fantasy games from VII onwards have been the dominant RPG's in the gaming market. What other RPG's were as successful/ [or if you prefer] better than Final Fantasy VII, an onwards? I think that quote from OPM wasn't refering to games pre-FFVII-ish. So in terms of it's fan-base and income that it generates (compared to other RPG's after FFVII), I guess it has become ruler of it's genre. But seriously, I don't like many things about Final Fantasy, and a lot of my dislike goes towards the fact that the whole Final Fantasy Franchise (FFF) damn: :slap), completely annihilates most rival RPG's (in terms of the amount they sell). Keep in mind that I have not played any of the FF games for longer than 30 minutes.... it has always seemed 'cheesy' to me <_<.


  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Cloud121@Oct 31, 2003 @ 07:17 PM



The VAs from FFX are back. Yuna sounds WORSE (and she sounded bad in FFX...), Rikku sounded great in FFX, but now she sounds EXACTLY like Bubbles from Power Puff Girls...



Also, the victory music is not the traditional FF one. It's some weird composition that doesn't really fit...



It's clear Square released this for the fucking Rikku fanboys in mind. UGH!...



Anyway, I can say to you now, this is gonna blow...


My my. Now, you have quite a bit of knowledge concerning this game and you have pointed out to us all the crap parts of the game, which makes me wonder why you say something like this:


  
	
	

		
		

			Originally posted by Cloud121@Oct 31, 2003 @ 07:17 PM



I just hope I can get used to it, by the time I buy the final product (comes out on the 18th of November), in January or February.


You know, nobody's forcing you to buy this game. The game is the one who should be saying "But I can improve!" not you.. meaning you don't need to change for the game, the game needs to change for you. (but we all know a game can't change ) Perhaps you would like to list some pro's of the game so I can understand your logic behind this, but as for now, my dislike for this game has just multiplied.

Oh, and one last thing: