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BBA + PSO = Homebrew GC Games! - gamecube dev kicks off!

Berty - Jun 19, 2003

		Berty		Jun 19, 2003
			It now looks like there is a use for the BBA as a flaw has been found in PSO that lets people upload homebrew gamecube games to the system through the adapter. To use it youll need an RJ45 crossover cable, a PC with an ethernet port, a copy os PSO and the BBA. From there you spoof the DNS address of sega's servers on the PC. Using special software you can now upload games (max 2mb) to the GC. This is great news for people llegitimatley interested in making homebrew games and emulators for the GC. but is this the beggining of the end for the GC as far as piracy goes? Personally i think that this type of activity would help to promote the gamecube a bit more. The reason? well look at how the Jaguar hacking community has kept that system going long after its death, not to mention the amiga fanboys still doing crazy things. Ive got all of the gear i need to perform this experiment so ill keep you informed as to how it turns out. PS i hope that people do something useful with this instead of just using it as a means of piracy. Personally i'd like to see some emulators ported to the system. Radiant Silvergun anybody?

		ratfish		Jun 20, 2003
			Wow, that's really interesting news, berty. This could be good news for anybody who's been waiting for a Gamecube homebrew community to begin. The process that you describe sounds like a hassle to set up at the moment, but who knows what it could turn into. I hope this doesn't lead to piracy of games, but on the other hand, Nintendo did do a good job of preventing piracy with the small size of the CD bay. I'm impressed, but the max of 2MB files leaves a little more to be desired. Well, only time can tell.

		Berty		Jun 20, 2003
			Hey, here is the address of the software that you'll need. http://www.gcdev.com/downloads.shtml... the site also has a really good message board system for anybody wanting help on development. I am still yet to try it out as i have been really busy. I have also found some gamecube dev tools for windows if anybody want em.

		ratfish		Jun 20, 2003
			Gimme all you've got, post any links here. I really want to get into this. Thanks by the way!

		Berty		Jun 20, 2003
			Here is a power pc dissasembler http://www.lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jkaleva/vdap...appc/.... Here's a gamcube cross compiler http://heliscar.com/greg/... I also have the code warrior service pack 2.0 if anybody is interested.

		Tagrineth		Jul 4, 2003
			Oh, wow! Holy shit! Whoa dude! You must be able to do a HELL of a lot with that amazing 2MB! Emulators? 8-bit maybe, but most 16-bit console ROMs won't even FIT in that 2MB...

		Berty		Jul 5, 2003
			Dont be thick, Go out an look at assembly language and the small file size needed to make emulators using it, then make an intelligent comment.

		ratfish		Jul 5, 2003
			Thanks for posting those links, berty.

Tagrineth

Jul 6, 2003

	
	
		
		
			Quote: from berty on 4:39 am on July 5, 2003

Dont be thick,



Go out an look at assembly language and the small file size needed to make emulators using it, then make an intelligent comment.

Oh, I know that emulators can be very small. But where are you going to store the ROMs the emulator(s) run? If you re-read my post you'll see that THAT was what I was talking about.

The last build of ZSNES DOS I have is 397 KB... that leaves you with enough room for SNES ROMs either 512KB (rare), 1MB (still pretty rare), or 1.5MB (not common but more frequent than 1MB).

Not only that but you'd have to upload a new ROM every time you play. Hell, you'd have to upload new data every time you play - PSO dumps all uploaded data on shutdown and retains only static game data in the character save file. Download quests (i.e. Gallon's Shop) are re-uploaded every time you do them.

		Berty		Jul 7, 2003
			What about creating an emulator with a LAN interface, ie, the host machine has the program code and then usies the lan connection to fetch rom data? U have to use the BBA adapter and a PC anyway so why not?

		Berty		Jul 9, 2003
			The GC dev site has been updated with new demo's and a new windows programming environment! www.gcdev.com...

		Berty		Jul 9, 2003
			Here is a link for info on the "gekko" processor www.hotchips.org/archive/hc13/hc13pres_pdf/06ibm-g...

Tagrineth

Jul 9, 2003

	
	
		
		
			Quote: from berty on 10:40 pm on July 7, 2003

What about creating an emulator with a LAN interface, ie, the host machine has the program code and then usies the lan connection to fetch rom data?



U have to use the BBA adapter and a PC anyway so why not?

Um... how would you do that? Store the emulator... then fetch the ROM... but then where does the emulator go to run the ROM code? Or would you run all ROM code through the network? That would be pretty slow... and you'd get better performance just buffering your controller inputs through the cable to the host PC and running the emulator THERE, and re-downloading images to display on the TV. LOL...

		Zziggy00		Aug 13, 2003
			Well now you can send up to 14Mb to the gamecube and someone has written an emulator now that includes 26 games...... such as: Space invaders Asteroids etc...