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| Ratamahatta - Jun 22, 2002 |
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| cww80 | Jun 25, 2002 | ||
| oh yeah check out this link concerning the Xbox... http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/...28723... looks like the Xbox isnt doing as well as you guys think... | |||
| Random Hajile | Jun 25, 2002 | ||
| I'm just in a rotten mood today so making my posts totally concise and easy to read has been difficult. NCSX is indeed listing wierd Xbox dating sims (at least one) it's called "Cupid Bistro" sounds fun.... NOT!!!! | |||
| Zero 9 | Jun 25, 2002 | |||
LOL, that is because MS gives you quality hardware and they lose ~$150 per Xbox sold... PS2 costs about $180 to make and the Xbox costs about $350. | ||||
| cww80 | Jun 25, 2002 | ||
| Quote Zero 9: LOL, that is because MS gives you quality hardware and they lose ~$150 per Xbox sold... PS2 costs about $180 to make and the Xbox costs about $350. yeah that sounds like a killer business strategy... | |||
| ExCyber | Jun 25, 2002 | ||
| This is all going to be a bit random as I try to recall the bits I actually want to respond to. -- Xbox's architecture is very much PC-based, but it does away with the major problems (e.g. having to deal with a big clunky OS, bad drivers, and different hardware configurations) that normally plague PC developers, so it's far better than an equivalently specced PC. -- I don't find any of Xbox's current library particularly compelling. About the only Xbox thing I'm really keen on seeing is neat homebrew stuff. PS2's library runs circles around Xbox's. Someone mentioned support from Konami and Capcom for Xbox, but so far it's little more than ports (Air Force Delta Storm, MGS2 Substance, Genma Onimusha). As far as I can tell, Konami has announced exactly zero original Xbox-exclusive titles, and Capcom only one (Tekki/Steel Battalion). Ports do not make a successful system. -- I can't stand the US Xbox controller. The stupid thing looks like it's designed to be stared at rather than used. Thankfully, there's a nice little gadget from the magical Far East Lands that allows the use of other controllers... -- Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have all done incredibly stupid stuff at some point, so you might as well not buy any of the new consoles if you're not willing to buy from companies that have messed with their customers. | |||
| cww80 | Jun 25, 2002 | ||
| Quote ExCyber: -- I don't find any of Xbox's current library particularly compelling. PS2's library runs circles around Xbox's. Someone mentioned support from Konami and Capcom for Xbox, but so far it's little more than ports (Air Force Delta Storm, MGS2 Substance, Genma Onimusha). As far as I can tell, Konami has announced exactly zero original Xbox-exclusive titles, and Capcom only one (Tekki/Steel Battalion). Ports do not make a successful system. -- I can't stand the US Xbox controller. The stupid thing looks like it's designed to be stared at rather than used. Thankfully, there's a nice little gadget from the magical Far East Lands that allows the use of other controllers... Ill second that... | |||
| SeGa4life | Jun 26, 2002 | |||
HERE is were u said Sonic is not doing well on GC...But yeat u kept telling me you never said it.....READ YOUR POSTS!!! And I am not LIEING about the News Clip.... The TRUTH is Sony dropped price do to "LACK IN SALES"... | ||||
| SeGa4life | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Would u PRAISE a game with Good graphics but shitty control...? Except GTA3..... No i'm sure u wouldn't... The why praise A DvD player with shitty control.... And the "POINT" I was makeing about getting the Controler was 2 SEE if it control'ed the DvD player Better...But it didn't.. And the Smooth Texters gimic in the PS2 is for PSX games and u keep having 2 turn it on every time u turn on the System ...WAIST of TIME! ??? | |||
| cww80 | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Quote SeGa4life: HERE is were u said Sonic is not doing well on GC...But yeat u kept telling me you never said it.....READ YOUR POSTS!!! And I am not LIEING about the News Clip.... The TRUTH is Sony dropped price do to "LACK IN SALES"... once again, Zero 9 said sonic wasnt really a system seller...i never did!!!Zero 9 tell this guy it was you, its not funny anymore...im just going to have to find where Zero 9 said that and quote it again...the funny thing is if you read above where SeGa4life accused me of saying that it says, quote from Zero 9: PS2 doens't get Sonic either, and Sonic is not really a system seller for GC (although it was for me, heh). and this guy is telling me to read my posts...sheesh,cant even read his own...and as far as the PS2 not selling well...prove it!!! | |||
| cww80 | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| i tried to quote that earlier post, but it wouldnt work | |||
| cww80 | Jun 26, 2002 | |||
the point is...you have no point | ||||
| SeGa4life | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| I apologize for thinking you said that Sonic was not a big seller I am the 1 that needs 2 read the Posts better...sorry ??? Now for me not having a point...? How do u figure? You didn't say, you just criticized my spelling of a word...hmmmm.. come on man I'm sure you know that SONY promised us DvD based games and haven't even came out with 1 singal game? Thats 2 machines in 1, thats great but 1 machine to use that much more will break quicker, There is no point in putting a DvD on a VIDEO games machine if you don't even have the games 2 put on a DvD...NOTE: SEGA has made over 7 DvD based games so far 2 be released. Thats great that sony wants DvD games but maybe they should work on making there games Smoother Texter before stepping on the next platform. PS3 is going 2 have a Modem...Geeee ??? thats.great ??? umm ??? ya ??? didn't sony say PS2 was suppost 2 be online thoe....It's nice 2 know there more worried about the next system before they even got throw the first 1 ??? thats money grubers for ya not gamers... ??? | |||
| Nadius | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Enough with the smileys. | |||
| Ratamahatta | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Microsoft has the 3rd party support, so does gcn and ps2. All are decent systems excpet for the ps2, blah!! Remember, ps2 has been out a lot longer than both the xbox and gcn so there are few games so far for both systems. | |||
| Zero 9 | Jun 26, 2002 | ||||||||||||
Yep, this is where the Xbox's developement ease and speed come in. Companies can create their games in almost half the time as PS2, and with better graphics and more time to polish. Most of the multi console games coming out are going to be on Xbox first, simply because PS2 graphics jsut don't cut it on Xbox. What does it matter what the controller looks like? It's how well it works playing games. And it does this well, after about hte first 5 minutes you use it, you forget thay you're holding a controller in the first place. I don't think I need to mention that the "Japanese" controller is also out in the US, and there are several licensed 3rd party controllers? Agreed. | |||||||||||||
| Zero 9 | Jun 26, 2002 | |||
Yeah, a good business strategy is to give your customers quality hardware, not a hunk of crap (hardware wise only, don't start flaming). | ||||
| cww80 | Jun 26, 2002 | |||
Yeah, a good business strategy is to give your customers quality hardware, not a hunk of crap (hardware wise only, don't start flaming).[/b][/quote] is that all you can talk about is hardware...its all fine and good that its powerful,but it isnt helping it...PS2 continues to outsell it...also...do you still play your saturn...or are the graphics and hardware not good enough for you... | ||||
| DBOY | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Maybe I'm crazy but I can't see any difference in average game quality between X-BOX and Atari Jaguar. | |||
| Moon Knight | Jun 26, 2002 | ||
| Well it's all in how you like your games, there are about 0 games so far for XBOX i want to play, but if your into shooter's and MMORPG's than XBOX is the system for you, they just released Morrowind and its awesome, but im not into MMORPGs sorry. i like my online RPG's to be small so i know the players. and god knows Morrowind will own the POS game titled Final Fantasy ONLINE.. god im just waiting in anticipation of how bad that games gonna be, oh dont get me wrong it will sell.. but if you need a job, apply for FFONLINE tech support before it hits shelves cuz they will need YOU (points) | |||
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