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| Mr Conan - Dec 5, 2020 |
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Ardiloso | Nov 15, 2022 | ||||
Nobody should suffer to play old ass games unnavailable to buy officially anywhere. Check your p.m. | ||||||
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Mr Conan | Jan 10, 2023 | ||
| Its still on the todo list. Im focusing on Lunar 2 and then going back to finish up work on Lunar 1. | ||||
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JayBww | Jan 10, 2023 | ||||
oh you work on Lunar 2 as well, that's awesome! Thanks for the update, and as always thanks for the amazing work! | ||||||
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Mr Conan | Feb 9, 2023 | ||
| The subtitled version is still tbd, i went down the path of thinking i could backport something from lunar 2 (then started hacking lunar 2 in the process). In the end ill probably write something custom and apply it to both. Im just so far into lunar 2 at this point, that it will come first | ||||
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cww80 | Feb 9, 2023 | ||
| I'm 3 hours into the Subtitled version. No issues outside of what's already known. I can always switch back when a new patch is released. | ||||
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JayBww | Mar 26, 2023 | ||||
Where did you get it? I'm more than willing to test/troubleshoot it out as well, my Saturn and me are ready  | ||||||
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cww80 | Mar 26, 2023 | ||
| Here.... | ||||
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JayBww | Apr 17, 2023 | ||||
Here were? I can find no subtitled version here. Or did you mean the dubbed version? | ||||||
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Mr Conan | Apr 18, 2023 | ||
| The download button gives you the “subtitled” patch for SSS. The link gives you the dubbed version. Subtitled version is still basically an undub because theres a bug in the subtitle implementation i need to work out or completely redo at some point | ||||
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JayBww | Apr 18, 2023 | ||
| Ah sorry, my mistake, I was looking only at the SSSC version. And I guess it's a lot more complicated to reinject only the English text (I don't mind about cinematic subs) in the SSSC version right? | ||||
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Mr Conan | Apr 18, 2023 | ||
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For SSSC, it is possible to re-encode the video with subs. Its fixed bitrate, i have the settings written down somewhere, and it does work to hard sub it and then use a tool i wrote to overwrite the original video stream. Problem is youll have some degradation in quality, so ive been holding out to get around to soft subbing it. (Also have a couple of videos still left to be subbed by the translator.) For audio subs i was trying to re-use the existing text draw routine during audio playback but there are a few bugs. I may just port in some of the text routines i have from lunar 2 instead. SSS vs. SSSC is the same challenge for subtitles really, just different insertion places in the code. Dub Audio in SSSC is a challenge because they implemented it differently than in SSS and unless the audio clips are the exact same length as the japanese, there are issues. Needs to be reverse engineered to figure out how to make it happy. | ||||
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JayBww | Jun 29, 2023 | ||||
Probably a silly question, but how much work would it be to have a basic working subtitled SSSC, with original non edited videos? (videos with japanese voices and no subs) I know it's a weird request, but while I good at listening japanese, I'm not so good at reading, so a simple sub version would do wonders to allow me to understand the game better  | ||||||
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Mr Conan | Jun 30, 2023 | ||
| For jp audio movies, all you need to do is edit the patch’s batch file to not update track 2 (the mpeg track). Subtitling of audio clips is the harder part. You need to edit the audio driver so that it periodically services a routine to write subtitle text out, and then write all the infrastructure and timing info thats needed to operate that. | ||||
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JayBww | Jul 3, 2023 | ||||
Thanks for the detailed answer! So if I understand correctly, while japanese movies are easy to keep, for in game dialogs keeping the japanese audio with English text is a lot more tricky? The audio driver is what keeps the text in sync with the audio right? And I guess there is no way to reuse the Japanese one, since it's not the same number of characters per message? | ||||||
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Mr Conan | Jul 4, 2023 | ||
| The problem with doing audio subtitles is that they dont exist in the game. The simple hack i attempted was to modify the audio driver to call the ingame text and periodically update it to write additional lines. There are two issues with this. First of all you cant run anything else in the game script until the text is completely written and cleared. Otherwise you end up with corruption, thats just how those boxes work. So in order to avoid this, you run into the other issue that any scrolling or other effects get delayed. Then i had an asm bug on top of that so i decided to look at lunar2 and see if i could easily steal its routines since it has ingame subtitles. That would solve all the issues. Turns out those arent easy to extract, but the method they took was to use vdp1 for subtitles for both audio and movies. So the goal at this point would be to hack in vdp1 subtitle support at some point. Only issue here aside from verifying an available unused region in vdp1 is that my free time has been lacking lately. | ||||
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