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Pearl Jammzz - Oct 8, 2003

		Gallstaff	Nov 19, 2003
		I have a western digital and so far have had no problems with it. It's also silent, i can't hear it ever.

		dnguyen800	Nov 19, 2003
		wow, that is a lot of money for a pc. I do have some questions on the your choices bjammzz... is a radeon 9500 pro really worth $229? Isn't a Radeon 9600XT cheaper and performs better? Plus, it comes with a voucher for Half-life 2, so that's like a $40 gift certificate. Also, if you plan on using an SATA hd later, you need to make sure that your PSU has the connectors for it right? About the HDs, I've always liked Seagate, they seem to be quieter than Maxtor drives. Buying Seagate doesn't mean you won't get a defective drive though, I think all HD companies don't test as much for defects so they can sell the HDs at much lower prices. I bought a Maxtor 120gb two months ago and it started making clicking noises so I will have to get it replaced soon. By the way, if a company offers a 3-year warranty for an extra fee, I suggest you get it.

		Gallstaff	Nov 19, 2003
		Yeah I was also thinking that the 229 price tag was kinda high seeing as mine was only 190

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 19, 2003
		on pricewatch, that's the lowest they have it for......when I looked at them last time they were like 200 even

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 19, 2003
		to my knowledge, the 9500 pro outperforms the 9600xt because it has 8 rendering pipelines wheras the 9600xt only has 4. I may be wrong though, can anyone confirm which is better? About SATA, Your mobo has to support it to my knowledge. and also the PSU has to support the mobo The HDD I am lookin at (hitachi) comes w/ a 3yr warranty.....which leads me to believe that it's atleast built have-decent. Within 3 yrs I will buying a new one anyways....just think how far SATA will be then .

Gallstaff

Nov 19, 2003

Originally posted by BJammzz@Nov 19, 2003 @ 07:46 PM

to my knowledge, the 9500 pro outperforms the 9600xt because it has 8 rendering pipelines wheras the 9600xt only has 4

You are correct, sir

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 19, 2003
		looking at prices for 9700 pro's......only a lil higher than the 9500 pro's. Might be able to afford it, if not I think I will get the 9600xt.

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 20, 2003
		as for fans, I am lokin at the Panasonic Panaflo FBA08A12L1A. I dont know if this has the RPM reporting you guys were talkin about, which of course could be a big problem. can anyone help out? sum questions about that RPM reporting stuff: What exactly is it? like a cable that plugs into the mobo or what? How do I tell if a fan does have it?

		Scared0o0Rabbit	Nov 20, 2003
		If there are only 2 wires coming out of the fan, it doesn't have a sensor. The yellow wire is the rpm monitor wire. Even if the cpu fan doesn't have the sensor, as long as one of your case fans does, you can plug that in there and your cpu fan in elsewhere.

		Gallstaff	Nov 20, 2003
		I've never even seen a cpu fan that doesnt have rpm reporting

Alexvrb

Nov 21, 2003

Originally posted by Gallstaff+Nov 20, 2003 @ 01:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Gallstaff @ Nov 20, 2003 @ 01:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'> <!--QuoteBegin-BJammzz@Nov 19, 2003 @ 07:46 PM

to my knowledge, the 9500 pro outperforms the 9600xt because it has 8 rendering pipelines wheras the 9600xt only has 4

You are correct, sir [/b][/quote]

You have to softmod a 9500 to get the best performance out of it. And even then, the 9600 XT has a lot going for it, it overclocks very well. I could probably get a 9600 XT to beat a 9500 Pro with stock cooling. Plus its cheaper now.

Oh, also the new Hitachi drives are excellent. They kill the other drives right now.

		Gallstaff	Nov 22, 2003
		Dude you gotta softmod the 9500 but not the 9500PRO. Given facotry standards and settings, the 95pro is a better card than the 96xt. Although it is possible to OC the 95pro to step it up a notch, the xt does overclock better. This is how I see it: If you want a really good card without fucking with it (but if you do fuck with it it'll be outstanding), get the 95pro If you want an ok card that can be oced easier but with lesser results (so basically not as much as a task to do but you get out waht you put it), get the 96xt

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 24, 2003
		I decided I have the $$ for a 9700 pro . I just dropped the 2nd optical drive and so that gives me an extra 40 or so bucks.........I figure instead of jsut getti na dvd reader...i'll save up and get a burner

		Alexvrb	Nov 24, 2003
		A DVD burner? Yeah, they're pretty affordable now. $150 will get you a decent multimode one.

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 25, 2003
		BTW, I am looking for a 17+'' monitor for real cheap.....if anyone has one laying around or know of one I would REALLY appreciate it (already over budget a lil, like 20 sumthin bucks and have no monitor)

racketboy

Nov 25, 2003

Originally posted by BJammzz@Nov 25, 2003 @ 09:51 PM

BTW, I am looking for a 17+'' monitor for real cheap.....if anyone has one laying around or know of one I would REALLY appreciate it (already over budget a lil, like 20 sumthin bucks and have no monitor)

If you could wait 9 months (when I move) I'll have some to sell

		Scared0o0Rabbit	Nov 25, 2003
		the fan I was talking about isn't a cpu fan, it's an 80mm fan. The kind of heatsink he is buying doesn't come with a fan, you use a case fan with it.

Gallstaff

Nov 26, 2003

Originally posted by BJammzz@Nov 25, 2003 @ 04:51 PM

BTW, I am looking for a 17+'' monitor for real cheap.....if anyone has one laying around or know of one I would REALLY appreciate it (already over budget a lil, like 20 sumthin bucks and have no monitor)

I got an lcd 17 (16 viewable) i'll sell

		Pearl Jammzz	Nov 26, 2003
		PM me w/ how much....prob. out of my price range but I could use the space even if the quality isn't that great.

		Alexvrb	Nov 28, 2003
		You can usually get new 17" monitors locally for around 100 bucks when they're on sale. Not sure where you're going to get something decent for much cheaper...