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mal - Mar 7, 2003

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 Zero 9 Mar 12, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Alexvrb@Mar 11, 2003 @ 07:59 AM

You're right, we shoulda stayed out of WWII. That was pretty stupid of us.


Uh no. You don't allow a country to bomb you severely without doing anything. Japan was desparate because we dropped their supply of oil, so they decided to blow people up. This was either just out of spite, or some moronic thought htat it would scare the United States into start sending aid again?
  
	
	
The people hit by the atomic bombs did not have the option of surrender. They were, in effect, being punished for their government's military policy. Are you sure that this isn't a problematic approach to war?

It is onfortunately true that the bombs were dropped on civilians. In theory it was to destroy major factories and ports, but of course, the civilian aspect was probably the main reason for surrender. It was an extreme tactic against the even more extreme government of Japan, which if had the chance would have done the same, and worse.

 Curtis Mar 12, 2003
Iceman, do you believe that that news article you posted is 100% accurate? Why would Saddam do anything like this - it simply does not make political sense. It undermines his position of "we are a poor nation, surrounded on all sides by enemies - we have nothing to hide".

I, for one, am totally sick and tired of all the attempts to link the war with Iraq with past terrorist incidents. There has been no credible evidence that there are any links what-so-ever with Al-Qaeda terrorists, no evidence that Iraqis had anythin to do with September 11 or other recent terrorist activities. Yet this is the line that the politicians are pushing. "We will kill Saddam, and there will be a lesser chance of terrorists attacks". It won't work like that - that is a fantasy. Whatever the final outcome of this action is, this will not be it.

Best case scenario is that Iraq is quickly invaded, defeated and "liberated". Anti-Western sentiment surges to an all time high in the Muslim world and terrorist activities skyrocket. This is not my idle speculation, but the advice of a high ranking Australian advisor who recently quit his job in protest over our Government's stance. The war, if it comes, would be sheer folly.

Iraq is a broken country after the last war. Their military forces are a fraction of the size they were 12 years ago. The information that I've seen suggests that any WMD program they have is disorganised and inefffective. Iraq does not have the capability to be a threat to anyone...unless Saddam is pushed into a corner and is force to play what ever trump card he has.

Worst case scenario is that Saddam uses his remaining WMD against the invading forces and/or Israel. Lots of people die, but the west proves its point.

 mal Mar 12, 2003
Hopefully the President still takes advice from his father

Bush Sr warning over unilateral action...

 Alexvrb Mar 13, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Zero 9+Mar 12, 2003 @ 11:23 PM-->
QUOTE(Zero 9 @ Mar 12, 2003 @ 11:23 PM)