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Translating Grandia 1.1.1
TrekkiesUnite118 - Sep 9, 2018

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  Knight0fDragon Feb 6, 2021

SpaceBooger said:

This error doesn't seem like one from my patcher. Where is this coming from?

 SpaceBooger Feb 6, 2021
It looks like the error is because I had no cue file - just iso and wav. I used the one that was created with the previous patched versions and all was good. Thanks!

 DonPachi Feb 8, 2021
The game grew 150 MB from 0.91 to 0.92, i'm not sure if this is the patcher doing and why it's doing it. But here i thought it worth mentioning cos it seemed unnatural.

0.91 -> 0.92
cd1 524 MB -> 602 MB (+78 MB)
cd2 495 MB -> 569 MB (+74 MB)
Total increase: 152 MB

 SpaceBooger Feb 8, 2021
Also, it may be nothing and I have no proof other than my opinion, but it seems like the cd is spinning and the laser moving more (more noise) in ver 0.92 than in 0.91. As I said, I have no proof I just noticed it after burning the newer version and never noticed it with the previous two versions - same CD brand: CMCpro TY at 10x speed.

 TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 8, 2021

DonPachi said:

That's because you're comparing 1 Track (the ISO) to a fully built CD with multiple tracks and Error Correction data and proper sector sizes. If you look at rips of the original Japanese disc you'll see the size is about the same.


SpaceBooger said:


I compared a burned copy of the patch to my official Japanese discs on my Saturn and I'm noticing no more drive activity on the patch than what I get with the official disc.

 SpaceCoyote Feb 9, 2021
I just finished the entire game (I believe I was using patch 0.9.1) and, having never played the game before, my experience was flawless. There were a couple of times where I noticed very minor grammatical errors, but I assume the text was taken straight from the PSX version so I have no complaints.

Thanks again for your efforts, @TrekkiesUnite118...! I must admit, the game was a bit of a slog at times with the excessive number of battles, but overall I quite enjoyed my time with it and I'm glad I had the chance to play through.

 Hyperthesis Feb 15, 2021
So far I've played to New Parm using v.92. The patch has been 99% perfect. I did notice a missing space in Mio's dialogue at the entrance of the Sult Ruins (or maybe it was Nana? Idk one of them). I was able to noclip through the sealed Museum door, though I'm not sure if that was in the original game as well.

I have a few feature requests though I'm not sure if they would be possible to build into the game:

  1. Battle subtitles: I have a vague idea of what the party members say during their victory poses from playing the Dubbed version years ago, but everything else is a mystery to me. Is it possible to add in subtitles or would that be a scripting nightmare?
  2. Cutscene subtitles: Ditto for non-FMV cutscenes (e.g. the Room of Illusions or the intro of Feena on the Steamer).
  3. Higher-res FMVs: Okay, this is stretching it but I know from your Lunar Silver Star project that it is (or at least will be) possible to play higher-res FMVs in the non-MPEG version of the game. I'm wondering if a similar trick of engineering would allow Grandia to do the same (say, playing the PSX or HD steam versions).

  TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 15, 2021

Hyperthesis said:


  1. I have no intention of doing that. I haven't dug into how that works and it's such a minor thing it's not really worth it I think. They're all just generic battle cries and even the HD version doesn't do that.
  2. I've already added them to where it was important story wise. The two you've pointed out are the two spots where it's not important due to either being repeated in a text box 2 seconds later, or just being generic banter.
  3. The FMVs are already running in the high res mode of 352x448i. The Game is using a custom MPEG like codec that is already pushing the Saturn hardware to it's limits with both CPUs and the DSP being used and the best it can do at the resolutions it runs at now is 10-12 fps.
As for the issue with the missing space, if you can provide a picture of the example then I can fix it.

 Hyperthesis Feb 15, 2021

TrekkiesUnite118 said:


  1. Fair enough.
  2. Oh, I didn't realize. I look forward to it.
  3. Wow, I didn't realize how much Saturn struggled with FMVs. Good to know they're already at the max possible qaulity.
Regarding the missing space, unfortunately I'm far past that point in the game. But after referencing an LP on YouTube I believe it's when Saki is talking to her troops.... It's not present in this video, but IIRC the missing space in the latest version I'm playing is between "...tolerate failure!" and "Be sharp..."

 TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 16, 2021
Basically FMV codecs are all software based on the Saturn unless the game uses the Video CD Card, which few do. While Cinepak can get decent results at decent frame rates and resolutions, for some reason Game Arts decided to write their own MPEG like codec for Grandia which MPEG is a lot more demanding than Cinepak. It's why Sega made an add-on card with additional hardware to handle the decoding in the first place.

As for the space issue, I should be able to fix that easily enough.

 Knight0fDragon Feb 16, 2021
There is an issue with the Region Free option with Grandia. The game binary reads pointers in the IPBin area. I need to trace the events to try and understand a little better as to what is going on.

 themadhaxor Feb 16, 2021
Explains why it worked when I patched it just as default USA, but gave a bad image with region free...

 TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 16, 2021
The patch by default should be changing it to US, so you shouldn't have to do anything if your desired region is US.

 Hyperthesis Feb 17, 2021
Noticed a new glitch in the menu when Feena first joins the party. Some weird graphical artifacts off to the far left. I'm using v.9.2RC and SSF PreviewVerR18(Test8).

 TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 17, 2021
Does it happen in the Japanese version as well?

 Hyperthesis Feb 18, 2021

TrekkiesUnite118 said:

I'll have to check my backup copy tomorrow and let you know (will my save file for the patched game work with the original?)

Also speaking of regional differences, I noticed the mixed magic in this version is called bolt, woods, bomb, and snow. But in the official English localization they're called thunder, forest, explosion, and blizzard. Did you change the names to be more faithful to the Japanese? Or is it due to a character limit?

 reblinds Feb 18, 2021
typo when you talk to the sailor crew member on the deck after finishing the swabbing mini-game. You're should be "Your"

 CheoChessman Feb 18, 2021

reblinds said:

That typo is also present in the playstation version, good catch


https://youtube.com/ysfzBISMd1A


 TrekkiesUnite118 Feb 18, 2021

Hyperthesis said:

It's a space issue. If you look closely you'll notice the screen was re-arranged on the PS1 version to add more information.

 Hyperthesis Feb 18, 2021

TrekkiesUnite118 said:

Yeah I noticed that. I'm assuming it's not possible (or not easy) to realign menus in the Saturn version?

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