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muffinman943 - Mar 12, 2004

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 IceDigger Mar 18, 2004
I love xvid because it is open source and I have not noticed much difference between the 2 in quality.

 racketboy Mar 18, 2004
I always use XviD because it open source, its free, and it is a bit better in some respects.

 gameboy900 Mar 18, 2004
I hate Xvid because it's open source. (Not the concept though). The problem is that there are a bajillion variations of the thing and they're all not entirely compatible with each other. Not to mention that different versions sometimes have compatability problems.

 Alexvrb Mar 18, 2004
Well, what Gameboy pointed out is the primary reason why it is a bit of a mess. There are advantages and disadvantages to open source, but it'd be better if at the very least the developers released their OWN binaries, so we don't have to rely on others (like Nic, as MTX says) to do it for us.

Anyway, I use Divx Pro when I have to get the maximum out of something. With all of the settings jacked up, it is very very slow, but I get excellent quality. If I have a small target size, I'll use Divx and take the speed hit. I always use Divx if my source is interlaced, as with Divx you can just *leave* it interlaced and let the decoder handle that if necessary. If speed is a concern and/or if my target filesize is a bit larger, I'll go ahead and use Xvid. Also, Xvid is totally free, whereas with Divx only the standard version is totally free. Divx Pro costs money, unless you use the adware version, which most people are unwilling to do. I personally don't think $20 is bad if you use it all the time.

So they both have their ups and downs, it is best to have both if you can. I have no experience with single-pass encodes, either. I always just decide what bitrate/filesize I want and do 2 or 3 passes. Oh yes, I did forget to mention this before - Divx (Pro) really shines with live action, with anime Xvid is just as good unless you're a freak like me and tolerate ridiculously low fps.

 soviet_star Mar 18, 2004
XVID, cause it got the best video quality...

I recommend using...ffdshow....get it at sourceforge.net..

this because installing XVID can seriously fuck up you machine...Ive encountered this numerous times...

besides ffdshow you only need

AC3 filter and ogg vorbis support....get all this att www.divxsweden.net...


 Caelestis Mar 18, 2004
Hey, everybody! You're being really rude! Going off topic in muffinman's thread... I'm ashamed. He had something as equally important to him as it was stupid, and you disgrace him like that...

I don't think I've ever been prouder to be part of a community.

 Runik Mar 18, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by Caelestis@Mar 18, 2004 @ 09:11 PM

Hey, everybody! You're being really rude! Going off topic in muffinman's thread... I'm ashamed. He had something as equally important to him as it was stupid, and you disgrace him like that...

I don't think I've ever been prouder to be part of a community.


:lol:

So true ...

 Taelon Mar 18, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by gameboy900@Mar 18, 2004 @ 02:15 PM

I hate Xvid because it's open source. (Not the concept though). The problem is that there are a bajillion variations of the thing and they're all not entirely compatible with each other. Not to mention that different versions sometimes have compatability problems.


Well, that's funny, because I installed a decoder build from Nic's page which is probably over a year old - and I can still play every new XviD I come across, without fail.

In regard to seeking efficiency, that's not directly related to which codec you use, but how often keyframes occur in the video stream... and I think it depends more on the file container, too. I've not noticed a difference in seeking between DivX and XviD .avi files.

 muffinman943 Mar 18, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by Caelestis@Mar 18, 2004 @ 03:11 PM

Hey, everybody! You're being really rude! Going off topic in muffinman's thread... I'm ashamed. He had something as equally important to him as it was stupid, and you disgrace him like that...

I don't think I've ever been prouder to be part of a community.


thanks for this. I love you mal

 mal Mar 18, 2004
And I love you too. Ahh, what a caring and sharing forum we have.

However, if you actually read the thread you'll find that it wasn't I that started this off topic frolic into the world of video encoding. I did coax it off onto a different direction, but that was later.

 racketboy Mar 18, 2004
So how bout those Yankees?

 Gallstaff Mar 18, 2004
BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 muffinman943 Mar 18, 2004
mal edits half of my posts

 mal Mar 18, 2004
Sure I do...

I'll admit that I removed your sig pic because I deemed it inappropriate, but I don't go around editing posts for no good reason.

 racketboy Mar 18, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by Gallstaff@Mar 19, 2004 @ 12:27 AM

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!


glad I'm not the only one

Is there anyone else good that the Yankees haven't bought yet?

 mal Mar 18, 2004

  
	
	
Originally posted by racketboy@Mar 19, 2004 @ 11:58 AM

Is there anyone else good that the Yankees haven't bought yet?


And in english? :lol:

 Myname Mar 18, 2004
It makes sense to me, but probably not in the way he intended it

 muffinman943 Mar 18, 2004
mal, you barged in on me and ~Des-row's relationship. You should aplolgize for that disrespectful act.

 mal Mar 18, 2004
I have done no such thing.

 IceDigger Mar 18, 2004
Told you this thread rocks.

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