SegaXtreme

Tectoy Saturn

slinga - Aug 29, 2003

		M3d10n		Sep 23, 2003
			Yes, you'd need a transcoder. I'm not sure about the avaliability of PAL-M to NTSC transcoders in the USA, but here they are pretty cheap, since the transcode proccess is rather simple. I even think the Saturn itself can easily be transcoded back into NTSC.

		Scared0o0Rabbit		Sep 23, 2003
			would a pal to ntsc mod not also do the job? I've never really looked at how the pal/ntsc mod works cause I've never had a pal tv or a desire to make my saturn useless to me lol.

		Alexvrb		Sep 23, 2003
			It is PAL-M. NTSC with PAL color encoding, as I understand it. Anyway, I've also heard you can modify the saturn itself, but nobody has said how. That'd sure make a Tectoy saturn would be a lot more attractive a purchase. It's either that or a transcoder, which I know for sure would work. But PAL-M to NTSC transcoders might not be too easy to get your hands on around here. I do need to eventually get a SMS though - and US SMS systems aren't all that common anymore. Could the SMS be modified in a similar manner? Eh, I guess an external transcoder would be a lot easier anyway...

		M3d10n		Sep 24, 2003
			Well, you should also try ordering a transcoder from Brazil. I googled and found a few models that can do PALM to NTSC, and with prices ranging from $50 to $90. I searched for transcoders in US/UK, but they turned to be a lot more expensive.

		Alexvrb		Sep 24, 2003
			Ouch, it'd be easier to track down an old US SMS...

		Adrock		Sep 24, 2003
			Well to change the output to 60hz on a PAL saturn isnt hard at all. The 60hz will be NTSC too i suppose because PAL-60 wasnt too popular around that time. I dont see why it would be hard to do it to a brazilian saturn with some looking around. cezario thanks for the offer but only having a few posts between us and having some bad experiences before i'll give it a miss thanks.

		antime		Sep 24, 2003
			A PAL Saturn modded to 60Hz will display PAL60, not NTSC.

		Adrock		Sep 25, 2003
			You sure about that? If the console was capable of it why was there never an option on sega saturn games to use pal60? I dont ever remember having the choice. Maybe it just does it automatically but i've never noticed it.

		antime		Sep 25, 2003
			I am sure because I have a Saturn with a video mode switch. There were never any games with a PAL60 option because the mode isn't selectable through software.

		IBarracudaI		Sep 25, 2003
			Sega Saturn's video output can't be set by software, the console always output the same type of signal, example: a PAL (50hz) saturn will always output PAL at 50hz, no matter what game is in it.. then, when playing NTSC (60hz) games on PAL saturns you notice that blackborders and the slowdown.. When you mod your PAL saturn hardware to output at 60hz the console will output PAL60, once again, no matter what game is in it... The 50/60hz mod only changes the refresh rate, not the color encoding from PAL<->NTSC. The reverse also applies... a NTSC60hz saturn, modded to 50hz, will output NTSC at 50hz, and not PAL50..

		AntiPasta		Sep 25, 2003
			you know what's fun? 50/60hz switchmod your PAL Megadrive, boot up Sonic the Hedgehog in 50hz and start running Sonic around... then flip the switch to 60hz and watch how he speeds up Really shows there is a speed difference even though most PAL gamers dont seem to notice it.

		Adrock		Sep 25, 2003
			Aye i did that too. Its amazing the difference it make. Sonic becomes a much better game when you do that too.

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Sep 30, 2003

	
	
		
		
			Originally posted by cezario+Sep 16, 2003 @ 11:04 PM-->QUOTE(cezario @ Sep 16, 2003 @ 11:04 PM)