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racketboy - Jun 6, 2003

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 racketboy Jun 6, 2003
I just noticed the case has dip switch CPU setting for speeds up to 233 -- so I guess that answers the CPU question (?)

 ExCyber Jun 6, 2003
If you can score a deal on one, get a Matrox Millennium. For 2D work, they make most modern cards look like toys.

Edit: the original ones, not the G200/G400 stuff.

 racketboy Jun 6, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by ExCyber@Jun 7, 2003 @ 02:58 AM

If you can score a deal on one, get a Matrox Millennium. For 2D work, they make most modern cards look like toys.

Edit: the original ones, not the G200/G400 stuff.


Millenium or Millenium II?

Could you give me a quick rundown/comparison on Matrox cards?

 Tindo@heart Jun 6, 2003
oh, so the 166 is MMX. good for you.

I'm not sure what type of RAM it uses, but I was referring to the 72-pin RAM . . . forgot if it's called SIMM or DIMM . . but that can be expensive, and some pentiums 1's still use it. MMX pentiums might requier the newer PC66/PC100 Ram though, which is cheaper.

You might can try those dip switches and overclock, it shouldn't hurt anything.

I'll be getting a Pentium II 233Mhz soon someone found on the side of the road. It boots to a black screen. I can't wait to get my hands on it and toy around. I'll try to post and ask questions about it here. I think it is a Packard Bell Multimedia 705, not sure.

have you tried anyting from the URL that you posted about the BIOS?

that seemed like good advice.

 ExCyber Jun 6, 2003

  
	
	
Millenium or Millenium II?


Just looked it up; I'm pretty sure I'm thinking of the Millennium II.


  
	
	
Could you give me a quick rundown/comparison on Matrox cards?


Basically:

Millennium II: best for 2D and has some 3D (but nothing that will help you much for games made in the past few years or so)

m3d: A dedicated 3D accelerator add-on.

Millennium G200/G400: modern style 2D/3D hybrid cards. Supposed to have pretty nice 2D but not quite as nice as Millennium II from what I hear. 3D is supposedly competitive but not quite up to beating NVidia at the time they were released.

Productiva: A heavily "budget" version of the G200.

Mystique: "Budget" cards.

Marvel: Cards with video input/output (comparable to ATI's "All-In-Wonder" line).

Rainbow Runner: Add-on video I/O cards.

 Quadriflax Jun 6, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by racketboy@Jun 6, 2003 @ 06:21 PM

any star wars games that will run on a 486?


X-Wing and Tie Fighter should both work okay. Rebel Assault as well, but I didn't like that game. Oh, and Dark Forces is a blast. There's probably more, but those four come to mind.

 Area-51 Jun 6, 2003
ok, racketboy you're gonna love this.....

Them old compaq machines, and i've worked on many, are a pain in the arse

They typically, 99% of the time have a hidden partition on the hd that contains the BIOS. If someone has Fdisk'd the drive and repartitioned it, then the BIOS partition is toast. You can go out to the compaq website from another computer and look up all the drivers for your particular model and d/l the Bios onto a bootable floppy. Then you can boot the computer having no BIOS with the floppy in the drive and install the BIOS onto the harddrive(it creates it's own ~2MB hidden partion).(You must go in and remove any partitions on the HD with FDISK before you do this). Once the BIOS is installed on the HD in it's own hidden partion, boot with the win 98 startup disk and use fdisk to partition the rest of the drive.

once you've installed the BIOS from the floppy to the HD, most of the compaqs use F10 when you see compaq in big red letters on the screen and you see a little white box blink up in the top right corner of the screen.

 racketboy Jun 7, 2003
thanks for the tips

yeah I've never big on Compaqs. This is actually the nicest one hardware-wise I've dealt with. I like the case and the board layout.

I'll keep you posted....

 racketboy Jun 7, 2003
win9x doesn't supprt partitions over 2GB, right?

 ExCyber Jun 7, 2003
Win9x doesn't support files over 2GB.

 racketboy Jun 7, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Tindo@heart@Jun 7, 2003 @ 02:26 AM

I'd get a soundblaster AWE64. or someone might can suggest a "real" full duplex ISA card. Don't use any driver for this card you find on the Net, use the Windows drivers that automatically install when you insert the card. That should give you good full duplex capability.



just ordered one for $8 shipped on eBay -- nice deal

 Tindo@heart Jun 8, 2003
Great! I got mine for 9, I think.

This card produces beautiful midi, and it has some type of "Sound fonts" that I never mess with . . I think it has 512K of memory and expanable to 4MB to hold .wav recordings that .midi files can use. . Like real piano sounds and stuff. . NEway, that's all I know.

If you use >=Win98 you'll want to use the standard Windows drivers. I never had luck getting "full duplex" with any other driver. I couldn't play more than 1 sound at once. For example; If I was listening to an MP3, I couldn't hear when I got an email.

The (WDM) drivers are what you need. With these you can play 6 MP3s at once if you want and record it into a wave file. I can't remember if Win98 installed those automatically. Tell me your results and I might can tear out the WDM drivers for you to use.

I hope to get a few more of these cards.

 racketboy Jun 8, 2003
this computer will only be running one app at once most of the time

so that shouldn't be much of an issue

same with RAM requirements

they can play CD audio and stuff right?

 Tindo@heart Jun 8, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by racketboy@Jun 8, 2003 @ 01:11 AM

they can play CD audio and stuff right?


*I made a small edit in the previous post*

Yup, they have two different types of "input jacks" *terms for your audio cable that runs from the CDROM.

 racketboy Jun 8, 2003

  
	
	
Originally posted by Tindo@heart+Jun 8, 2003 @ 05:14 AM-->
QUOTE(Tindo@heart @ Jun 8, 2003 @ 05:14 AM)
QUOTE(racketboy @ Jun 8, 2003 @ 01:16 AM)

  
	
	
Originally posted by Tindo@heart@Jun 8, 2003 @ 05:14 AM